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“You’re living in a bubble,” said the person who’d been exposed to exactly the same life-long indoctrination, education, media, and and propaganda as you, but never investigated further.
Yeah, but have you ever considered communism is bad?
This is basically the last argument I made to my family before we stopped talking about politics
They were like hey, you seem to be going down these propaganda rabbit holes. But here’s what I believe. And I’m like yeah, I know what you believe. I believed it for 35 fucking years too, I’m the one that did more research and changed my mind, You all don’t even know the definition of socialism, let alone communism!
At that point, I decided that, yeah, I’m talking to brick walls. I’m not going to do this anymore. They’ll have to research it themselves.
I love how every time I talk about politics with a liberal I provide historical events they are unaware of, and their counterarguments are the same tired garbage takes you see in mass media. “which of us is demonstrably more informed here, you genocide-excusing worm? I’ve read multiple books on this topic and you’ve read only headlines, and you dare to have an opinion? fuck you!”
in a nutshellI would ask for some examples of “communism bad” core, but I’d rather not be angry.
The problem with that question is that you get accusations of genocide. If you point out that it’s overblown and/or falsified to fit the narrative, it’s genocide denial. If you point out that the fine capitalist countries have done and are continuing to do worse than what they accuse communist countries of, it’s whattaboutism. If you continue to press, then the capitalist countries made a whoopsie, or it’s all the fault of one man, while communists are just bloodthirsty and evil. Evidenced by the genocide… And back to square one.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Is not like Communism doesn’t have propaganda though …
Just because their bubble has none doesn’t mean yours doesn’t either.
- Propaganda is just another word for advertisement.
- Communist propaganda usually boils down to: “This we achieved, this fucked up shit our enemies do. Here’s the evidence.” Somehow no socialist state ever made up a genocide a capitalist state supposedly comitted…
“propaganda” is a loanword for publicity imported from Italian so it could be loaded with a shitton of red scare baggage. no media is objective, and all bourgeois media pushes its class interest but does so with the benefit of capital.
using “propaganda” as a pejorative is just clinging to the liberal idea that bourgeois journalism is “objective” despite obviously being subservient to and a promoter of capital. comfortable liberals use “propaganda” to mean something is false, essentially abandoning the whole idea of critical thinking— considering the source when evaluating the information becomes “ignore the information because the author has an agenda”. again, infantile fantasy that pretends there is any author who is “objective”, who doesn’t have to eat food or have material relations within society.
