• lepinkainen@lemmy.world
    12011·
    3 months ago

    Drunk people and consent is a moral and legal gray area - it doesn’t matter if they initiate

      • Senseless@feddit.org
        612·
        3 months ago

        Yeah, sure. But since she already threw up, she’s drunk enough to make it problematic.

      • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
        241·
        3 months ago

        It also depends on what is being consented to. We accept that drunk people can consent to commit crimes, but that they cannot consent to have sex.

        • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
          272·
          3 months ago

          If drunk people couldn’t consent as a rule then like 80% of Finnish one night stands would be double rapes (since both are getting raped by the other party) lol

        • kungen@feddit.nu
          61·
          3 months ago

          And the old “I cheated on you because I was drunk”. It’s not so heartwarming that people here are belittling rape with what would be considered negligent sexual assault at the worst.

          • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            12·
            3 months ago

            hm, yeah so if you can’t consent when drunk, then you also can’t cheat when drunk. Because it’s non consensual in both cases. (at least intentionally, so it would be a valid excuse in this case)

    • festnt@sh.itjust.works
      131·
      3 months ago

      well if someone gets really drunk (not being drugged by others, but doing it because they want to) and commits a crime, thats still a crime they commited

      if im wrong please explain

      • Honytawk
        19·
        3 months ago

        You’re wrong, drunk drivers never get fined when they run over someone.

        /s

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      legal gray area - it doesn’t matter if they initiate

      is there a legal basis for this statement? There very well could be, i don’t do a lot of raping so i wouldn’t know anything about this lmao