• ramble81@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    A liberal would feed 100 people on the off chance one needed food. A conservative would deny 100 people food on the off chance one didn’t deserve it.

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      3 months ago

      Liberals are clearly the lesser evil, but sadly both get into bed with lobbyists and capitalists that created the housing and food shortage in the first place. Liberals just want slightly less evil capitalism while conservatives want aggressively more evil capitalism.

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      3 months ago

      A liberal would feed 100 people on the off chance one needed food.

      That’s not how means testing works, unfortunately.

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      Maybe they’d give them a tax break after they filled out a dozen forms proving need.

      Libs hate universal programs and they hate direct aid. Hence why instead of free healthcare, we got obamacare. Instead of cash to help new parents buy the things they need, Kamala is promoting a tax break. Instead of free college, we got complicated loan forgiveness schemes that seem entirely random if it applies to you and how much.

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        You seem to think change happens in a vacuum and that at no stage has anyone attempted to stand in front of the things that have helped millions.

        On one hand you have the Right who wish harm on an honestly cartoonish scale. Like, it’s difficult to fathom just how much suffering they want to cause others without somehow doing mental gymnastics to wrap your mind around it. They are the cartoon evil villains at the top, while towards the bottom are amongst the poorest, least educated, and angriest people. The vast majority of whom have been living under Republican leadership for generations.

        On the other you have a flawed group composed of many different groups whose opinions largely intersect, though often with key differences. Some of them wish harm on others, that is inevitable, though by magnitudes less than the Right. Many of them just want life to be better, and the rest want life to be better for all, including those on the Right. The States traditionally under the Left’s leadership have higher quality of life in every measurable aspect, and greater access to institutions who can help them.

        You talk about the smaller steps the Left takes while completely ignoring the small steps the Right has taken leading up to this. A gradual decline decades in the making. We CAN fix it, and we could use the help of those who want to be heard. All we ask is to help us win this election and then be the voices that help push that positive change after the election.

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          3 months ago

          the Left

          I’m not criticizing the left, look at the specific things I’ve criticized and who implements them. Liberals are not the left.

          All we ask is to help us win this election

          The dems would rather lose than do what their electorate demands, hence the year long genocide they’re supporting.

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      You are not voting for libs or cons though. You are voting for one of two corporations the difference of which in actions, not words, on key policies is miniscule. Of those one is openly criminal and another is not, so you’re voting for the latter. You want the boot up your ass to be legally solid.

      It’s a pretty feudal dynamic.

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        Man, one group is actively creating policy and legislation to deny people who I care about the right to exist. The other is doing the opposite.

        Get that eighth grade both sides horseshit outta here. Grow up.

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          Liberals are clearly the lesser evil, but it is important to remember that liberals are still right wing corporate shills that have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do anything for the working class.

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          The other is arming Israel. I got that you don’t care about people they kill.

          You should give that intersectionism thing a try.

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            3 months ago
            1. That’s a non-sequiter to what they said
            2. Both the GOP and the Democrats have stated they will continue to support and arm Israel. Trump has said that numerous times. About the only one pushing back is Bernie Sanders.
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              This is non sequitUr to what I said.

              I also didn’t say GOP doesn’t.

              Education is really the weakest part of your (USA) society.

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            3 months ago

            Just because I didn’t mention a topic doesn’t give you a blank check to assume I have the worst opinion you can imagine. That’s for people who still go on twitter and fourteen year olds. Fuck off.

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              That doesn’t, the fact that some stupid culture war shit is more important - yes, it does.

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        I was going to post about how we should reform mental healthcare for the better.

        I had facts and figures, handy infographics; the whole 9 yards.

        After reading your comment, I don’t need to post anything at all. Everyone can see how dismal our mental healthcare is from those few sentences you typed up.

        Thank you!

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        How the fuck people like you can say shit like that after Trump’s three SCOTUS picks were responsible for striking down Roe v. Wade after 50 years, then went after Chevron and said that a president could commit crimes if they are official acts, I don’t know.