You know that $8,000 self-driving upgrade option you went for…

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    5 hours ago

    Scammer tells you that that thing he promised was ready for 10 years will never come…mmmmm, geez, who could have seen this coming?

    3 years till bankruptcy, probably 2, and likely jail time soon

    Don’t take my word for it, he even admitted this himself jokingly in an interview that he’ll go to jail if trump loses the election. Awesome how in the US you can be a criminal and stay out of jail but just buddy buddy with a “president”

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    22 hours ago

    Bet he’s releasing this to divert attention from the fact that he’s been talking to Putin for the past couple years - you know, that time period when Putin invaded Ukraine and Musk was desperately trying to raise the money he needed for Twitter …

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    23 hours ago

    This has been so obvious for so long. Just look at open weights offline AI capabilities. A consumer cutting edge 24 GB GPU is still nowhere near powerful enough to make executive decisions at this scale, speed, and scope. Maybe it is possible with one or a few A100’s, but those are $10k monsters that drink enough power to justify data centers investing in nuclear power plants. That’s not going into some ultra light EV with lithium cells.

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      19 hours ago

      If you don’t use ai, then self driving autonomy is likely feasible in the compute power available in most of these cars.

      The problem is sensors (like lidars) and software, that’s highly tested and validated. The testing and validation is the real issue.

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        14 hours ago

        Didn’t Tesla decide to go completely with cameras? No other sensors, just some rudimentary version of machine vision?

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    20 hours ago

    Electric cars have potential, reducing pollution, increasing efficiency, but I’m sad to see car manufacturers adding so-called smart or connected features on top.

    Please work on a simple electric car that’s affordable, relatively light, and that a mechanic down the street can maintain and repair.

    Dont bother adding cruft or anti-features. I don’t want an always connected computer/tracker in my car. Don’t need a flat screen, nor a smartphone app to control AC, nor a fancy keyfob that thieves will try to hack.

    There are already means of transportation where you don’t need to hold the wheel, and can just sit back and read a book : trains, subways, buses, trams…

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      13 hours ago

      They have that in China. It’s not available for sale in the US, due to sanctions an d incredibly outdated ICE-centered safety standards that are responsible for the enshittification of all vehicles in the last ten years.

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    10 hours ago

    Well I’m assuming that he still doesn’t really know what he’s talking about. I got a free month of FSD v12.5 on my model 3 with HW3 and aside from a couple issues it’s working pretty well. If the engineering team tells me it won’t work then I’d be a little disappointed but I never planned to pay for FSD either way.

    Those couple of issues:

    1. Questionable lane changes. Sometimes it makes lane changes that I would consider rude and/or unsafe. E.g. changing lanes into a small gap in between large trucks.

    2. The other day it made a turn and the sun was right in front of me and it suddenly couldn’t see and told me to take over immediately. It started slowing down and turned on the hazard lights. Idk why fucking Elon is so opposed to using any sensors other than cameras… This is the main thing that makes me think he’s right about HW3 not being good enough.

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    22 hours ago

    We bought a Tesla 6+ years ago, and my husband (bless him for being brilliant) called exactly this and we didn’t purchase the full self-driving package. Honestly I hate the autopilot anyway and have posted before about a bad experience with it. No way in hell would I allow it to self-drive. Maybe I have control issues but nothing they’ve done recently inspires any confidence.

    My daughter asks me to put on rainbow road, but I can’t because it would force me to use autopilot. No thanks. Sorry kiddo, no rainbows and Blue Oyster Cult. (Well, she can have BOC via Spotify.)

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      15 hours ago

      I’ve driven a Tesla, I don’t own it, but the autopilot stuff kinda scared me. Braked a lot later than I thought and I felt uneasy the entire time.

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        14 hours ago

        Simple things like braking at the right time when a light is coming up are still not fixed. After like 7 years. I don’t expect to ever see FSD from this company.

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    13 hours ago

    If this sounds like a total disaster, in mitigation Musk says that Tesla owners with HW3 installed will be offered a free upgrade to the latest HW4 self-driving computer, introduced last year.

    As long as they make good on their promise to (somehow) retrofit the capable hardware, and continue supporting FSD transfers, is it really a big issue? They did much the same when switching from HW2 to HW3.