Utah? We should have created it in Germany. We were already partitioning the country, they started the Holocaust which necessitated a Jewish homeland, and most of the people who would move to Israel were from Europe and used to its climate.
Yep, shoulda just done this
That said the zionist movement predates WW2, and the balfour declaration is one of the major culprits, so carving out half of england would’ve also been a solution.
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You just invented mormons again
Hasn’t the middle east been around for like 30x as long as the US has though
Not disagreeing that the US does a lot of fuckery in the middle east but I think it’s ultimately the UK that started the mess.
EDIT: West Texas is pretty empty. Israel can have it all.
That mess is older than even the UK. The Ottoman Empire cobbled together peoples who didn’t have anything to do with each other way earlier.
Random Youtube video that I’m parrotting without double-checking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN4mnVLP0rU
The Ottomans were quite permissive of other cultures, you just has to pay higher tax as a non-muslim, but they left you in peace.
After the British conspired to incite uprisings in the Ottomans, that’s when they came down hard on their subjects to quell any further uprisings (it didn’t work)
Youtube videos are a disaster in historical accuracy.
The Ottoman empire was stable. They had beef with Armenia. But that only turned into the Armenian genocide after the Turks turned secular.
The empire was not a beacon of wealth but it was nothing like the crackpot the middle east has turned into since British and French colonialism.
I still think its fair to blame whoever is responsible for allowing the current Israel to be founded. Just should not have happened.
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Well too be fair, Lawrence of Arabia tapped into existing resentment up forment his revolt
There’s always been differing interests in the middle east, whether it’s religious, ethnic or something else. To say otherwise takes away from the agency of the people living there
Missing a few flags there.
The UK def missing.
The vast majority of earths problems can be traced back to the brits. Including America.
British financiers who turned reasonable banking practices into speculative stock market bullshit, which created our “endless growth” economy and basically necessitated the natural resources colonialism brought in
God didn’t give the Jews Utah, they got from the Nile in Egypt to the Euphrates in Iraq. So say the magic scrolls.
Which should pretty much be understood as the Zionist goal to claim as the lands of Israel. They will not stop until they have it. They will keep doing incremental land grabs after wars that they goad others into starting, as they have done with Palestine.
Regardless of whether the magic scrolls were ever the reason, they aren’t now, at least not for many Jews. Most Jews aren’t even really religious. The magic scrolls are a rationalization, an excuse, not a reason. The reason is Western settler-colonialism.
Because the Mormons took the land from the natives ‘first’.
This is a shit shitpost.
“After a long and exhaustive investigation we found that we did nothing wrong”
There have been continual problems in the middle east for thousands of years before the USA existed.
Yeah it’s all the fault of those damn Egyptians constantly fighting with Hittites! This does absolve USA and Israel, see?
We are not living thousands of years ago tho.
Why not Germany?
It would be nice to see the genocidal religions being squarely blamed rather than the nations that are infested with them.
ahh yes the religion settler colonialism religion
hint: its all of them
Judging by the downvotes, a lot of Lemmitors have no idea how the world works. Just living in the Marvel Cinematic Universe—must be nice.
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Counter productive and hypocritical to put people into convenient groups like that to shield your opinions against any form of criticism. Well done, you’ve earned a block.