I wonder if this will still hold true if Trump ends US support for Ukraine.

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    Better be fast with it, at this point i have little doubt that turnip would go as far as sending in US troops to defend Russia

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    Tbh the only way keeping Russia from taking Ukraine is starting to look like French, German, and British boots in Kyiv… I know France has been keen on it, and their military alone is enough to beat Russia imo. Fuck really wish we gave them our American made subs instead of Australia rn.

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      If Germany and France want to, they could wipe Russia of the map. It’s a matter of cost. I hope that the EU will pick up the military aid that the US doesn’t send under Trump, and allow Ukraine to continue the drone strikes with EU tech. Russian and NK armies only have enough soldiers that won’t defect…

      Eat the rich, they are our true enemies. Power to the people.

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    If Trump flees from Ukraine and Europe can support them without US help it would be a turning point.

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    he said he expected the United States to “remain steadfast” in its support of Ukraine due to the strength of “bipartisan support” in the country.

    Ridiculous. President/cabinet can end war by itself.

    Ukraine accepted Russia’s peace plan early in the war. It was US loyalest puppy, Boris Johnson, that went to Kyiv to bribe and threaten Zelensky into backing out. Congress can’t stop Ukraine from accepting peace, and Europe was always going along with the war due to CIA cooption.

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      Boris Johnson… went to Kyiv to bribe and threaten Zelensky into backing out

      What did he bribe/threaten Zelenskyy with? I thought what he said to Zelenskyy was “decide what you want, and the UK will support your decision either way”.

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            It’s the only possible explanation for the blatant idiocy. I too have a wealth/health amount for which I am willing to suicide Ukraine.

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              In 2022 I think a lot of Ukrainians definitely did want to fight back and many people signed up for the military. They didn’t want Russia conquering their country.

              Wanting freedom from the dictator in Moscow is not idiotic.

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                Ukraine rulership and nazi paramilitaries provoked the war. It is only nazi supremacist rulership/sentiment (very good at conscripting others) who can view it as reasonable to rule over regions they hate (Crimea and Donbas). There’s only one reason Ukraine has suspendended all elections and non-nazi supporting parties. They will lose elections.

                Reality is so far removed from the western propaganda controlling you.

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                  I think it would be good if the Donbas and Crimea could democratically decide their future, but I don’t believe the referendums held by Putin’s regime, given that the Russian regime rigs elections (that video shows ballot stuffing in Russia).

                  I don’t see how Ukraine, or Ukrainian far-right elements, provoked the war. The war was begun by Russia who sent their troops (illegally of course) into Crimea and the Donbas in 2014.