“Because in 2024, Ukraine is no longer facing Russia. Soldiers from North Korea are standing in front of Ukraine. Let’s be honest. Already in Ukraine, the Iranian ‘Shahedis’ are killing civilians absolutely openly, without any shame,” said Zaluzhny, adding that North Korean and Chinese weapons are flying into Ukraine. Zaluzhny urged Ukraine’s allies to draw the right conclusions. “It is still possible to stop it here, on the territory of Ukraine. But for some reason our partners do not want to understand this. It is obvious that Ukraine already has too many enemies. Ukraine will survive with technology, but it is not clear whether it can win this battle alone,” he said.

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    What only happens in fairy tales are “diplomatic solutions” in a war like this one. Russia will not negotiate if they are not allowed to keep what they stole. They can’t be allowed to do that. So there will not be peace until either Ukraine gives up or Russians feel continuing this war is too costly for them.

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      That is the critical lie. This war was easily avoidable, and easily endable. Russia’s red lines are/were 100% reasonable.

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        Yes, it was very easy to avoid, by Russia not invading another country without provocation.

        And if you’re going to spout some bullshit about them not wanting Ukraine to join NATO or the EU, well… That’s none of their damned business. It’s not their country, and they’re not a member of either, so they have no say in the matter.

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          The only reason we are officially fighting is to keep Ukraine nazified while dangling future NATO membership. Its actually far more preposterous in that no one seriously wants Ukraine in NATO, and so its just pure disrespect of Russia to diminish Russia.

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            So what? None of it was happening on their soil, no threats were made. They had no cause even if your bullshit assertion were true.

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            If Russia doesn’t want to be disrespected, they should quit doing fucking stupid things

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      When a country loses life taking territory it is very unlikely they will ever give it up. I would love to see Russian return those territories to Ukraine and even pay them for all the damage. Thats not going to happen and we can keep fighting to pet our egos but at the expense of innocent people? I dont mean military but civilians who now dont have clean water, power, medical help etc. They are an indirect loss to both sides that everyone ignores. They deserve peace that is all Im saying. I don’t like Russia I dont support what they did!

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        “We” are fighting nobody. The Ukrainians are. And as long as they want to keep fighting the invaders, it’s only right to assist a country that’s only defending itself.

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          The majority of Ukrainians are forced to remain in their country and fight, often separated from their families, highlighting the harsh realities of war. Your perspective appears influenced by an idealized, cinematic portrayal of conflict, whereas the adage “War is hell” reflects its true nature. In any scenario, peace is always preferable to war, as no dimension exists where war surpasses peace in its value or consequences.

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              I am deeply passionate about this situation because it is one that could potentially impact me in the future. Our civilized way of life is a remarkable privilege that we often take for granted. However, both natural disasters and wars have the potential to disrupt or permanently erase it.

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            In any scenario, peace is always preferable to war, as no dimension exists where war surpasses peace in its value or consequences.

            “Peace” with the third Reich was not preferable to opposing them in the Second World War. There are some people left who had to suffer under the Nazis, they could tell you about that.

            But generally you have the right idea, we just disagree in the definition of peace. A state in which Ukraine capitulates and becomes a Russian vassal state, where political dissent is not tolerated the Ukrainian culture and language are russified and opposition is violently cast down can not be classified as peace in my opinion. It’d be the continuation of the war against the Ukrainians with different means, or more likely with very similar means but less international attention.