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The DRM on Blu-Ray was too harsh so I skipped the format entirely. If I couldn’t put a disc into my HTPC (Linux) and press “play”, I wasn’t interested.
The arrrs are often rips of physical media, so they’ll be setting sail too I guess
First their phones, now this? Does LG only want to be known as the company that makes great TVs and shit appliances?
Their washing machines are pretty decent.
They make screens on contract for many electronic devices.
They do way more than that, that’s just the consumer facing stuff.
Lol go to Korea and see all the other consumer facing stuff. LG shampoo if you want.
I genuinely believe more people would have kept uaing physical media if they made it more convenient just to pop in a movie and play it.
Everytime I put in a 4k blu Ray, there’s like 40 seconds of useless loading screens, unskippabble warnings, menu animations, and other bullshit. It feels like the old days of massively overcooked multimedia “experiences” in the worst way possible.
I ripped our physical media, and the experience is way better. I wish I could just buy and download a .mkv or .avi or whatever.
The best bit is that Blu-ray supports “online content” so they can update the forced intros and trailers to fresh ones!
And it’s a great way to make sure you get an up to date ad snuck in there.
I still like physical media, but every corner of everything just has to be jam packed with ad crap and other distractors now
I prefer my 10min of unskippable download time and watching it in 4k with a proper bitrate.
40 seconds?
More like 10 minutes
For real though
4K discs are so niche that this just isn’t really true, since they simply don’t bother to add that stuff anymore with the money all going to streaming. Almost every 4K disc I have just loads right into a bland generic menu with only a skippable logo for universal or whatever at the beginning. On top of that, they’re all region free. Odd that when the consumer base for physical media is smaller than it used to be, the consumer experience is better.
Now most of these 4K discs also come with a regular (often older) Blu-ray which contains the features from previous releases or whatever, and THAT’S where the bullshit you’re talking about is - lots of trailers (with it being a crapshoot whether you can skip straight to the menu, need to skip one at a time, or have to actually fast forward them), and, worst of all, defunct BD-Live stuff that in some cases you have no way to skip loading at all, even if you completely disable network connectivity in the player. None of this junk is in any of my 4Ks. Sometimes the features are even on the 4K too, if you’re really lucky.
But yeah, modern 4K discs are mostly great and still absolutely way better video and audio quality than any streaming service I’ve used - the worst thing you usually get is maybe one dumb copyright notice. (LG’s 4K players were terrible anyway though making the experience bad for consumers for a different reason, but that’s for another comment).
And five minutes of ads.
Streaming only. Sign up now for your recurring subscription. You’ll own nothing and you’ll like it, or else.
Jellyfin (Or Plex if you have to deal with the “Spouse Factor”) + Radarr and Sonarr + Usenet
Perfection, no annoying physical media to worry about, but you still get to keep the data you…uhh…“acquired”
I use Stremio/Torrentio/RealDebrid, is there any practical reason to switch?
I’ve only used Jellyfin, what does Plex do better for the non-expert user?
I dunno, Jellyfin UI looks pretty good no?
i dont have a desktop or a server that can run this stuff constantly yet. but is usenet still good for the “discussions?” i thought there were better free versions.
If you have the time to seed a lot then private torrent trackers can be just as effective for finding your ahem… linux ISOs without the cost. Usenet is most useful for people who are worried about repercussions from their gov for seeding (as many count this as “distribution” and it carries more weight than simply downloading)
I would be torrenting with a VPN with multihop, and seeding is a bit iffy in my country becuase you cannot be charged here for downloading, but you can be charged with seeding.
Usenet is a bit more work to setup than bittorrent, but you will be able to find lots of movies and TV shows there without having to seed anything. Unfortunately, you have to pay for access to good indexers if you want to download more than a few files per day.
Yar har, fiddle-dee-dee.
The format was made in such a way that you needed very specific specs to watch on PC. They killed the format themselves.
It’s the thing Sony does best.
Blu-ray wasn’t designed by Sony, they just participated in the licensing pool. Sony designed UMD, those tiny disks used by PlayStation Portable.
I recently bought a second PC Blu-ray writer just in case this would happen. Lucky me. I should be good for the next 10 years.
Looks like they’re still available for now in the UK but at inflated prices sent from America
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B079LTC6ML
The above supports UHD and is easy to… adapt for legitimate ripping of your Blu-ray. For backup purposes of course.
I think Panasonic still make some too but I’ve used LG ones for years.
For internal desktop drives, I have the WH16NS40. After flashing some open firmware on it, it works perfectly for playing and ripping BRs. Looks like I’ll be picking up a spare in case this one dies.
The MakeMKV forum has a lot of good tips and instructions on selecting and configuring BluRay drives.
I’m surprised that usb Blu-ray drives are as expensive as they are still, low supply and mostly only niche demand I guess? Was hoping to get one to make some copies of my physical media, but spending $100ish for a usb drive hurts haha
I guess now’s the time to pull the trigger
Get one that works with libredrive so you can rip at full quality and speed through Makemkv.
What’s the make and model number? The link is funky if your AMZN location isn’t set to UK
BP60NB10, though that may be different by region.
Also had just as much success, including with UHD BD, with the older BP50NB40.
The end is near for physical media for video.
I wish there were more/better/good choices for streaming video. We already have decent solutions for audio, games and books/audiobooks, yet video seems to be lagging behind, hugely.
Jellyfin and Plex: “What am i? Chopped liver‽”
what decent solutions do we have for audio and books?
That’s because there is a strong tradition of rights distribution for movies and TV being totally fucked up, and it has been since day 1 of both industries. Brought to you by the same motherfuckers who gave you Hollywood Accountingtm, where a movie that cost $100 million to make and raked in $500 million at the box office somehow “didn’t turn a profit” and magically they don’t have to pay royalties to any of their writers or actors.
Especially since stuff you want to watch changes services all the time.
It’s like if your DVDs of the star wars trilogy got replaced by the Brady bunch and then told you to pay more for that privilege.
Streaming isn’t the middle ground in my opinion, rather it’s unrestricted downloadable files that you can then handle however. Streaming provides some convenience but no consistent access (see various shows being delisted or shuffled between services).
Companies would love if everyone forgot having home video, in the sense of owning copies of movies and shows they always have access to and ability to watch whenever.
im torn. as someone with a massive personal library, bluray was a non-starter. they never fleshed it out to the storage densities i would have required for my library. solid state storage has come so far now, it just makes sense.
someday i’ll just be able to hand a single drive with my 100tb of content to my kids. if youre concerned about ‘owning’ shit. start powning it.
Inb4 drive failure
3-2-1 backup rule
meh. i have triple redundancy including an offline set. cheap storage means cheap redundancy,
It’s $100 for 4TB right now.
But once you factor in RAID and alternating offsite backups, it’s really $400 for 4TB.
I go through all the older stuff I pulled from the internet. A lot of it can’t be found now.
yep, dirt cheap. all about perspective. my first hd was 40mb and cost 250$
e. oh, and you can get solid used 4tbs in bulk for ~60$ now
Haha remember when CD burners came out and a $5 CD-R had the capacity of a $200 HDD?
The kid with access to a CD burner was the king of the playground.
As much as I hate that this is happening, I think once you turn to digital media, it’s incredibly difficult to go back. The convenience of having your stuff at a click of a button is just too good.
That said, if you’re into movies specifically, i’d personally still go the route of buying a disk, and ripping it to your local storage, but that’s both expensive, and inconvenient in terms of space
The convenience of having your stuff at a click of a button is just too good.
Except when you go to find your stuff, discover it’s not there, and yearn to be able to just stuff a DVD in a player.
I’d have no issue with digital media if there was a way to actually own it. Everything is either streaming only or ridden with DRM that can only be played within their app. Blurays, assuming you can decrypt its DRM bs, are the last bastion of media ownership left.
You’ve essentially described exactly what the issue is. All these companies want you to continue subscribing, so you owning anything isn’t in their interest
“If buying isn’t owning then piracy isn’t stealing.”
- A bunch of pirates, probably
Storage is cheap for what you get.
A DVD movie ripped to MKV is 3-5GB.
A 12 terabyte drive is ~ $100. That’s… 2400 movies (if my math is right). My current movie collection is about 300 movies, 500GB of storage (I’ve ripped some stuff to MP4).
Having a backup of 12TB would cost perhaps $100/yr (Im paying less than that for backup of my 4TB storage).
Alternatively you can replicate your library with friends and family, pretty simple to do. Drop a mini pc with a drive in it running Kodi/Casaos/Freedombox, whatever, behind the TV at everyone’s house, for less than 20w of power you have a replicated media player.
Sure a DVD is only 3-5GB but a UHD Blu-Ray is 50-100 GB
But getting a DVD just to rip it is very inconvenient. Not only can there be scarcity issues with out-of-print disks, but also you’d either deal with the disks you never use lying around, throw them out or bother reselling, which I’d prefer not to do. I’d prefer having just hard drives of my media.
You’re misunderstanding. I’m not talking about drive space, i’m talking about the space the physical disk cases take up
Commenting as a reminder to revisit.
