A tragic situation went from bad to worse in Evansville, Illinois, after police who responded to complaints about animal neglect ended up shooting the dog they were summoned to help, WISH reported.

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    6 hours ago

    Not my joke, but:

    Sure you say refund the police, but when someone breaks into your car, who are you going to call that’ll show up 4 hours later and shoot your dog?

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    Don’t call police about any person or animal you aren’t willing to see dead. This should be common sense by now.

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      22 hours ago

      Don’t call police about any person or animal you aren’t willing to see dead. This should be common sense by now.

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        Don’t call police about any person or animal you aren’t willing to see dead. This should be common sense by now.

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        And liberals are appalled that I’m prepared to defend my home. Fuck am I gonna do? Call the police?!

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          As a left winger, looking in from the outside, I’m appalled that you NEED to be willing to defend your home, with deadly force. I’m also confused about why you fight so hard against measures that would reduce both the risk and the fear. Given your gun laws, and the mentality of your police, I would be arming up for self defense too. I just don’t understand how large parts of america see it as acceptable.

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            What’s your plan if someone breaks into your home? Roll over and hope for the best?

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              Depends on the context. I value my family considerably over possessions. Between my dog, a heavy object, and some basic self defence training, I should be fine to protect them.

              It’s worth noting that almost no criminals doing home robberies are armed with guns. Most don’t even carry knives. It significantly racks up the charges, if caught. Also, our police, while lack luster for most break ins, won’t be for an armed, aggressive robbery. I’ve seen their response for a simple gun sighting (it involved helicopters etc).

              In summary, and order.

              1. Nothing, since they likely target an empty house. (I also have home insurance)

              2. Scare them off. They want a confrontation even less than I do.

              3. Bug out. Then involve the police.

              4. Roll the dice on a physical confrontation. I’d likely do better with a lump of wood, or a knife, than a gun, at least a close range.

              I’m not looking to play hero. Things can be replaced, my life, family, and body can’t be.

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          liberals are appalled that I’m prepared to defend my home.

          No one is appalled about whatever this means

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    After authorities had been at the premises for 30 minutes, “officers and animal control attempted to safely remove the dog and instructed its owner to leash the dog to walk it to the animal control vehicle.” … Police said that they had “observed the dog for signs of playfulness or normal behavior but became concerned when the dog’s approach escalated into aggressive behavior, including jumping up with its mouth open in an attacking manner within very close proximity to the officer. In response to the threat, the officer discharged his duty-issued handgun, firing three rounds at the dog. The dog succumbed to its injuries.”

    God forbid you use a knee to the chest, or baton, or pepper spray, or the fucking animal control lasso pole.

    Nope, straight to bullets. Bullets fix everything. Thank god it wasn’t an abused goldfish, they might have been forced to firebomb the whole neighborhood.

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      A few years back we adopted a 100lb pit who was rescued from a dog fighting ring. He was evidently very sweet from the beginning, but extremely protective of my wife. We could be sitting next to eachother and laugh a little too hard and it would set him off.

      There were a few times in the beginning where he came at me with murder in his eyes and I’d have to pin him down and pop a leash on so I could put some space between us. We got one of those poles that helped a lot. I’m a buck 30 dripping wet with no training of any sorts and at the time was constantly drunk, yet it was simple enough to figure out how to take control of the situation while minimizing harm to anyone involved. He definitely got a little banged up, I bled a time or two, but at the end of the day we were both alive.

      I can’t imagine the incompetence, cowardice, and utter disregard for life that it takes to shoot a dog. Get fucking bit, distract it so someone else can gain control, don’t be a fucking pussy.

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        Dogs kill people. It’s not always 2 adults, one dog. Sometimes it’s 2 dogs, one woman or one child. The victim could be the dog’s owner, or it could be someone out for a walk and two strange dogs on the loose.

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          I totally get that, I’ve been horrified of dogs since I got my arm tore up when I was in high school and almost lost my hand stupididly try to save a pug from a German Shepard on the loose by throwing my arm in the middle. That shit is horrifying. Why I decided I wanted a giant pitbull when I couldn’t walk past a poodle without taking my eyes off it? Who knows.

          But in a case where there’s multiple “trained” cops and animal control on the scene. I think the cops stand a good change to walk away with nothing more than a couple puncture wounds and a restrained dog instead of a dead one. I can definitely see situations where you have to shoot it, I don’t think this was one of those situations.

      • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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        Pit bulls are a menace. They are not a fully domesticated breed and should require a license to own.

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          We have a pitbull and a beagle. When my son was born our pit would protect our son from the beagle. Beagle hated our son for the first year and would show teeth if he got too close. Our pit would stand in between them, theyve fought a few times and our beagles still alive. I’ve seen him gently take my beagles toys away from my son then bring him something else to play with.

          My wifes whole family has little dogs and they’re all awful with kids and aggressive. My pitpull gets protective of the house when people come over but all it takes is a little reassurance that we’re all safe, I went over my sister in laws a while ago and her dog was snapping at all the kids there within 5 minutes.

          Pit bulls are absolutely wonderful, the issue is the people who realize that they could rip a leg off and treat them like shot, or they don’t realize and still treat them like shit.

          Not generalizing small dogs or saying all big dogs are peaceful monks, but every pit I’ve seen that wasn’t actively being used in fighting or as a guard dog has just been a goofy teddy bear for the most part.

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            The issue with pitbulls is once that aggression switch is flipped, it’s flipped. There is no calming them down and once they latch onto something, short of incapacitating them or shoving smelling salts up their nose, they aren’t letting go until whatever they’re biting is dead or has stopped moving.

            Most pitbulls that are raised right can go their whole lives without that switch ever being triggered and will never hurt a fly. Most privately owned big cats (pumas, leopards, etc.) are the same way when raised right and go their whole lives without hurting anyone. But we consider big cats raised this way tame, not domesticated, and require licenses for those who choose to own them.

            Why? Because they are still a dangerous animal who’s aggression towards people/other animals has not been fully bred out of them. If they attack, there’s no calming them down. And it only takes one incident to turn things into a nightmare. People who choose to own them should be aware of that and prepared for the dangers. And the danger is great enough to others that they should be regulated and controlled, not just freely allowed to any idiot that thinks they’re a cool pet.

            Pitbulls are not domesticated. They can be tamed, they can be trained, but that potential for uncontrolled aggression is not gone. There is a concern and a danger with them that you just don’t have to worry about with breeds like a Golden Retriever or a Labrador. Other aggressive dogs like German Shepherds or Rottweilers will typically listen to their owners and disengage from an attack, or at least can be pulled off of their victims. But not Pitbulls. They will latch on and continue to maul their prey until one of them stops moving.

            • neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              I do agree that people should be more responsible, but I think that includes all dogs in general. I’ve seen plenty of dogs who don’t listen to a thing their owners say when they get locked into something, pitbulls included. And there seems to have been a stereotype of your average pit owner being on the more irresponsible side.

              This is anectodal, but my guy had a lot of issues with animals in the yard, he killed a few snakes and would damn near try to break out of the window if he saw a rabbit I’m the garden. We did a couple weeks with a dog trainer last year and now he still loses it at the rabbits in the garden, but it only takes one word to get him to stop barking and sit down. He’ll whine at the window for an hour and wants to keep checking but he’s more than under control. When he finds a snake in the yard he’ll bark like crazy but won’t go within 5 feet of it anymore unless it comes to close to one of us, and then still it only takes one word to get him to retreat.

              On the flip side my neighbor has a big golden doodle (I think, it’s of those generic family dogs) who is absolutely wonderful, off leash constantly and will always listen to her owner, her recall is phenomenal. Unless she gets locked on something, she hates squirrels and cats, and so far has unfortunately killed at least one squirrel and one of the neighborhood cats. I was out there when she got the cat and even for that sweet well behaved dog who “wpuldnt hurt a fly” there was absolutely no stopping her and when she was done with the cat she went into kill mode looking for something else,. She ended up biting her owner while he tried pin her down and get her in the house. But she’s a good breed, so no one is worried about her.

              I think the issues your laying out are valid, but not strictly to pits. If my neighbor had a pit instead of a golden doodle that pit would’ve been taken away and the neighbors would throw a fit. If I had a golden doodle it wouldn’t be worth telling you about.

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      Cops are trained to shoot first, maybe someday we’ll all get lucky and they’ll all shoot themselves in the head cause their braindead anyway.

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    Never call the police to a location with a dog unless you really somehow have no other option.

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    DOJ: Police Shooting Family Dogs has Become ‘Epidemic’

    Cops in this country kill so many dogs each year that a specialist at the Department of Justice’s (“DOJ”) community-oriented program services office says it has become an “epidemic.” The DOJ estimates that around 25 to 30 dogs are killed by cops every day, with some numbers as high as 10,000 per year. The totals could, in fact, be higher, since most police agencies do not formally track officer-involved shootings involving animals.

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    de-esprit-de-corps Easy - Success: A few miles away, there is a room. It is filled with Mickey the Bludgeoner, Nick the Executor and Sally the Sadist. They have just received a call about a dog and are sprinting to their cop cars. The Details on the case don’t matter, none of them having heard any of them beyond “there is a dog”.