The nature of federation means that even if you never post anything to my instance, your garbage may still be visible to my people via tangential interactions on shared linked instances. Bans solve this on the local instance level and are by far the easiest way to accomplish this.
(To be clear, the “you” in this is not referring to you specifically OP, it’s a general term)
There are certainly valid reasons for it and it’s also a fairly controversial thing to do. IMO it should be reserved for obvious spam/scam accounts or other problematic content accounts (e.g. Posting harmful misinformation or propaganda, illegal content, hate speech etc), not as a tool for “content I don’t agree with, but is otherwise fine”
However, that being said, my meme isn’t really about whether or not it’s a just or good/bad thing to do, it’s about the irony of a group who consistently shits on .world as being “Reddit-like” to pull a page straight out of the reddit mod playbook
That’s like China setting up police stations in other countries to enforce Chinese censorship outside their borders.
No it is exactly the opposite. Its like banning people that are known criminals from entering your country. Countries have laws(rules) and if someone breaks those rules, no matter where they were at the time, you can just say “No we dont want to see you here, you can go do that elsewhere but not here”.
That happens all the time in the real world and is perfectly reasonable.
What also happens in the real world tho is arrest/execution for crimes abroad. I would compare that to a complete lemmy wide ban where someone doesnt just get banned from one instance but every single one of them.
But thats not whats happening here so i dont see a problem.
Yes, and it is up to those users to decide that by themselves.
Your job is to keep your instance clean, and defederate when your users want to. Not to police other instances and force them to do your bidding. You have no authority there. It is up to those instance mods.
It’s one thing to ban someone for posts and content on the instance itself
It’s very modern-Reddit like to ban someone who never posted anything on your instance’s communities
The nature of federation means that even if you never post anything to my instance, your garbage may still be visible to my people via tangential interactions on shared linked instances. Bans solve this on the local instance level and are by far the easiest way to accomplish this.
(To be clear, the “you” in this is not referring to you specifically OP, it’s a general term)
There are certainly valid reasons for it and it’s also a fairly controversial thing to do. IMO it should be reserved for obvious spam/scam accounts or other problematic content accounts (e.g. Posting harmful misinformation or propaganda, illegal content, hate speech etc), not as a tool for “content I don’t agree with, but is otherwise fine”
However, that being said, my meme isn’t really about whether or not it’s a just or good/bad thing to do, it’s about the irony of a group who consistently shits on .world as being “Reddit-like” to pull a page straight out of the reddit mod playbook
That’s like China setting up police stations in other countries to enforce Chinese censorship outside their borders.
If your users go somewhere with laxer rules, it’s not your place to try to impose your rules on people who don’t even use your site.
Well, with the added detail that the censorship would only apply to Chinese people. You won’t get a good real-world metaphor.
It’s still quite messed up, and if ml mods dislike the other instances rules that much, they should just defederate them.
No it is exactly the opposite. Its like banning people that are known criminals from entering your country. Countries have laws(rules) and if someone breaks those rules, no matter where they were at the time, you can just say “No we dont want to see you here, you can go do that elsewhere but not here”.
That happens all the time in the real world and is perfectly reasonable.
What also happens in the real world tho is arrest/execution for crimes abroad. I would compare that to a complete lemmy wide ban where someone doesnt just get banned from one instance but every single one of them.
But thats not whats happening here so i dont see a problem.
Yes, and it is up to those users to decide that by themselves.
Your job is to keep your instance clean, and defederate when your users want to. Not to police other instances and force them to do your bidding. You have no authority there. It is up to those instance mods.