I don’t know, but this comment from @[email protected] has given me some stuff to think about.
People should not think less of you on the base of the amount of sex you have, and you shouldn’t either.
This is a nice thought, but insults based on amount of sex are absurdly common. I have seen quite a few people on this site who still do these insults, and it doesn’t get removed when I report it. The incel article from a while go was about how we should critique incels for their misogyny rather than them failing to have sex, I see this as pretty similar to the arguments about not body-shaming fascists in that most of the people who will get hit by the insult are not the actual target. From what I remember, that article good job explaining why these insults are harmful and how they hurt a lot of people who they really shouldn’t, unfortunately the discussion on that post was very off topic. In my experience, most people who have sex fail to recognize that not everyone who is celibate is an incel (“If so many terrible people have sex and you can’t, that must mean you are worse than they are!”).
I would say that insults based on amount of sex a person has should not be allowed, but I am very pessimistic about this actually leading to a change in site culture.
Once again, please assume good faith, even if you disagree with the take. If you think I mean something weirdly reactionairy by this post, ask me wether that is what I mean, instead of just saying that’s what I mean please.
I don’t want this to become a strugglesession, I just feel like this would be a good discussion to have. If this does become hostile, then please lock/remove it mods.
The only people who identify as incels are the people who associate with the misogynistic ideology. Normal people just say they’re virgins. The word “involuntary” is the misogynistic part, it implies that they are being wronged by women/society.
The discussion is not about people identifying as incels, but about calling other people incels.
In that case, I would agree that we shouldn’t use the word interchangeably with virgin. I wouldn’t accept people using virgin as an insult either.
Ideological incels deserve to be called incels with all the contempt that entails.
Isn’t it harsh to say “haha virgin” to someone who hasn’t had sex though?
Yep. Good thing nobody’s suggesting doing that!
I mean in real life, I’ve seen it, for years. Sorry for making that clearer.
People definitely do, you just haven’t seen them, I have.
Report them and they’ll get banned, but that doesn’t really have anything to do with this thread.
Should have said in real life, not on here.
then report it. that kind of behavior is unacceptable. but calling an incel an incel is not that.
Should have said in real life. Not on here.