So true. At the same time, this happens because a lot of hiring managers don’t know intimately what the job actually does, so they resort to cookie-cutter interview techniques.
“Do leetcode hard on screen share for 12 hours over three months, and then we’ll let you know if there’s any openings anyone here actually wants to hire you for…then the teams will interview you. Oh and if we don’t find a fit within a year of the phone screen you start all over lol”
Google, meta, etc. Fuck them all.
Bonus: If you score really high on the pointless quizzes, then you might get a chance at a remote job, which puts you first on the chopping block for layoffs every quarter!
Extra bonus: There’s an office near you, but we’re only hiring somewhere else right now that had a shitload of layoffs recently due to shitty management that didn’t get fired, so you’ll have to uproot your entire life and place your future in our hands for the privilege.
The reason they can get away with this is because they have troves and troves of people who grovel pathetically at their feet like they’re some sort of God to be worshipped in the “career” plane of existence.
Be honest. People want to work for them for the money (not that there’s anything inherently wrong with that) and so they can tell their friends and update their LinkedIn profiles with “I work at Google” to impress everyone else.
There are plenty of well paying, respectable tech jobs that are much more ‘morally noble’ than these conglomerates of parasites that will make you much happier to wake up every morning without having to perform some Freudian ritual in the mirror trying to convince yourself that what you’re doing is “making the world a better place”. Because it’s not. And these other companies won’t have you doing some absolutely dildo-to-ass inducing interview process where you’re essentially giving them labour market data for absolutely nothing in exchange (except to maybe be considered to have someone look at your resume for 0.7 seconds).
This is a major issue I have with tech. I’ve had the displeasure of being in big tech for many, many years after college (while I was still brainwashed) and working with plenty of truly abhorrent coworkers and people I’ve ever encountered. It’s astonishing, disgraceful, and terrifying how many people in tech have absolutely zero moral compass, and pigeonhole themselves into just “thinking about the science of it all” without thinking about the human impact (isn’t this supposed to be the point of advancing science and technology?).
And now look at the state of the world because of this. Fucking look around you. You can point the finger at others and blame others for this shit world we’re creating (and yes- there are certainly those in power who wield much more influence and control than any lowly coder), but if you want to help change things, you have to try. At least a little bit. And one way to do this is by just trying to not be working for companies like these. Is that really so fucking difficult? Go somewhere else. Trust me- if the Google’s and Meta’s and Amazon’s of the world begin losing genuine talent because workers aren’t morally willing to contribute to a soulless and arguably evil entity, then they will change real fucking quickly.
So - STOP GIVING THESE COMPANIES YOUR TIME AND MONEY BY INTERVIEWING FOR THEM. Take a stance for once and stand by your values and conscience. Think about the type of organization you want to work for and how it would align morally with your values. All it takes is a few minutes to research companies that aren’t so fucking awful for the world, and there are plenty of them around depending on what your values are. I have SO much more respect for others who took a position at a “less prestigious” company than those who worked at a Google.
People will still want to impress others and showcase their egos (to say I’m not guilty of this would be a lie), but if the collective metric for what we consider prestige aligned more with human value output of a company rather than raw salary or profit, then I really do think things could change. But you and I have to put in the leg work. No, it’s not fair that this is the world we were shoved into. But it’s what we have to do.
Anyway….sorry for the rant lol. I needed to get that off my chest.
You’re absolutely totally right. Would I still work, I’d be ashamed if I had to say “I work at google”. Since they removed “don’t be evil” as their motto, that is.
But you also explained it…we all get brainwashed. From indoctrination to outright brainwashing. Daily, every where. And if you dare to question something, you’re suddenly alone. One sane in a herd of insane? Must be me,they can’t ALL be wrong,right?..RIGHT?
Tiny story: when I still worked, one job was at a very highly deemed top association that stood for curing cancer. Or helping people with it, or doing studies, paying studies, you name it.
Sounded awesome. I was admin and had access to everything. I quit 6 months later, I couldn’t take it anymore.
-a whole floor with lawyers to legally fuck people out of their money and to fend of incoming.
-another floor full of marketing people who did nothing else than quench old (or dying of cancer) people for their inheritance.
-the cellar was full of hundreds of millions worth of inherited stuff, paintings and shit.
-the bosses drove 250k cars, flew multiple times a month to “meetings” (which meant at least 1000 each for food alone, coz it had to be fancy).
-oh right the building was just recently bought, because it was soooo fancy and in front of a large river here (in our small country it’s like US’s central park). It was an 8 figure move. Totally unneeded.
And the yearly spending for curing cancer? 5%. Still a large sum, but it was just an alibi for everything else. And it was probably THE most reputable association here. Last day I ever donated anything.
I understand that overhead is needed. But it should be, by definition, kept to a minimum.i wanted to work there for the cause, not to get moneyz.
Well said, and I’m sorry you had to work with them. That sounds like a horrible and soul sucking environment.
But good for you for standing up to your values and knowing when to take action (even if that action is just stopping working for them). Seriously- you should feel very proud of yourself for listening to your conscience and taking action. I have tremendous respect for that, and I think taking action like this says quite a bit about your character.
See everyone? You can do something. You don’t need to be MLK Jr. There are things you can do every single day that can help change things (no matter how small they may seem). Not saying that quitting isn’t a small feet - you are sacrificing a cushy lifestyle and potentially career aspirations, so that makes your decision even more commendable.
So true. At the same time, this happens because a lot of hiring managers don’t know intimately what the job actually does, so they resort to cookie-cutter interview techniques.
“Do leetcode hard on screen share for 12 hours over three months, and then we’ll let you know if there’s any openings anyone here actually wants to hire you for…then the teams will interview you. Oh and if we don’t find a fit within a year of the phone screen you start all over lol”
Google, meta, etc. Fuck them all.
Bonus: If you score really high on the pointless quizzes, then you might get a chance at a remote job, which puts you first on the chopping block for layoffs every quarter!
Extra bonus: There’s an office near you, but we’re only hiring somewhere else right now that had a shitload of layoffs recently due to shitty management that didn’t get fired, so you’ll have to uproot your entire life and place your future in our hands for the privilege.
Then don’t work for them.
The reason they can get away with this is because they have troves and troves of people who grovel pathetically at their feet like they’re some sort of God to be worshipped in the “career” plane of existence.
Be honest. People want to work for them for the money (not that there’s anything inherently wrong with that) and so they can tell their friends and update their LinkedIn profiles with “I work at Google” to impress everyone else.
There are plenty of well paying, respectable tech jobs that are much more ‘morally noble’ than these conglomerates of parasites that will make you much happier to wake up every morning without having to perform some Freudian ritual in the mirror trying to convince yourself that what you’re doing is “making the world a better place”. Because it’s not. And these other companies won’t have you doing some absolutely dildo-to-ass inducing interview process where you’re essentially giving them labour market data for absolutely nothing in exchange (except to maybe be considered to have someone look at your resume for 0.7 seconds).
This is a major issue I have with tech. I’ve had the displeasure of being in big tech for many, many years after college (while I was still brainwashed) and working with plenty of truly abhorrent coworkers and people I’ve ever encountered. It’s astonishing, disgraceful, and terrifying how many people in tech have absolutely zero moral compass, and pigeonhole themselves into just “thinking about the science of it all” without thinking about the human impact (isn’t this supposed to be the point of advancing science and technology?).
And now look at the state of the world because of this. Fucking look around you. You can point the finger at others and blame others for this shit world we’re creating (and yes- there are certainly those in power who wield much more influence and control than any lowly coder), but if you want to help change things, you have to try. At least a little bit. And one way to do this is by just trying to not be working for companies like these. Is that really so fucking difficult? Go somewhere else. Trust me- if the Google’s and Meta’s and Amazon’s of the world begin losing genuine talent because workers aren’t morally willing to contribute to a soulless and arguably evil entity, then they will change real fucking quickly.
So - STOP GIVING THESE COMPANIES YOUR TIME AND MONEY BY INTERVIEWING FOR THEM. Take a stance for once and stand by your values and conscience. Think about the type of organization you want to work for and how it would align morally with your values. All it takes is a few minutes to research companies that aren’t so fucking awful for the world, and there are plenty of them around depending on what your values are. I have SO much more respect for others who took a position at a “less prestigious” company than those who worked at a Google.
People will still want to impress others and showcase their egos (to say I’m not guilty of this would be a lie), but if the collective metric for what we consider prestige aligned more with human value output of a company rather than raw salary or profit, then I really do think things could change. But you and I have to put in the leg work. No, it’s not fair that this is the world we were shoved into. But it’s what we have to do.
Anyway….sorry for the rant lol. I needed to get that off my chest.
You’re absolutely totally right. Would I still work, I’d be ashamed if I had to say “I work at google”. Since they removed “don’t be evil” as their motto, that is.
But you also explained it…we all get brainwashed. From indoctrination to outright brainwashing. Daily, every where. And if you dare to question something, you’re suddenly alone. One sane in a herd of insane? Must be me,they can’t ALL be wrong,right?..RIGHT?
Tiny story: when I still worked, one job was at a very highly deemed top association that stood for curing cancer. Or helping people with it, or doing studies, paying studies, you name it. Sounded awesome. I was admin and had access to everything. I quit 6 months later, I couldn’t take it anymore.
-a whole floor with lawyers to legally fuck people out of their money and to fend of incoming.
-another floor full of marketing people who did nothing else than quench old (or dying of cancer) people for their inheritance.
-the cellar was full of hundreds of millions worth of inherited stuff, paintings and shit.
-the bosses drove 250k cars, flew multiple times a month to “meetings” (which meant at least 1000 each for food alone, coz it had to be fancy).
-oh right the building was just recently bought, because it was soooo fancy and in front of a large river here (in our small country it’s like US’s central park). It was an 8 figure move. Totally unneeded.
And the yearly spending for curing cancer? 5%. Still a large sum, but it was just an alibi for everything else. And it was probably THE most reputable association here. Last day I ever donated anything. I understand that overhead is needed. But it should be, by definition, kept to a minimum.i wanted to work there for the cause, not to get moneyz.
Well said, and I’m sorry you had to work with them. That sounds like a horrible and soul sucking environment.
But good for you for standing up to your values and knowing when to take action (even if that action is just stopping working for them). Seriously- you should feel very proud of yourself for listening to your conscience and taking action. I have tremendous respect for that, and I think taking action like this says quite a bit about your character.
See everyone? You can do something. You don’t need to be MLK Jr. There are things you can do every single day that can help change things (no matter how small they may seem). Not saying that quitting isn’t a small feet - you are sacrificing a cushy lifestyle and potentially career aspirations, so that makes your decision even more commendable.