• Nudding@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I mean. It’s the only answer. You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide “let’s pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump”. It’s too late and it was too late 10 years ago. This isn’t just a US problem. This is global societal breakdown in the next 10 - 20 years.

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      11 months ago

      You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide “let’s pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump”.

      of course you can. the demand for oil/gas will be there regardless, people aren’t all going to stop driving ICE cars just because Biden cut all US oil production. it’s political suicide, not just for Biden but for US environmental policy in general.

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      11 months ago

      Economic collapse is not an answer to anything. Let alone “the only answer”.

      All it does is highlight how big of a threat environmentalists are to society

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        11 months ago

        the economy is already collapsing. for us that is.

        also oil only means collapse because they made it mandatory.

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                11 months ago

                nope, thats how i know that in fact, the economy isnt going well.

                the few who benefit from the line going up are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

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                  11 months ago

                  You didn’t say it’s not going well. You said it’s collapsing. It’s not collapsing, and Rather than back it up you change the subject.

                  The economy is not collapsing

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                    11 months ago

                    you have a very different definition than me of collapse then.

                    the amount of hunger and homelessness going on configures a collapse, just not for the rich who defines whether or not things are going well.

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        11 months ago

        Economic collapse may be the best answer. Endless production and consumption of goods may make people have material improvements to their lives but it is… excessive.

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          11 months ago

          What good is a dick sucking machine when humanity has driven 70% of species to extinction? Fuck humanity.

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            11 months ago

            When ecological collapse kills off 70+% of the human population, you may be really wanting that dick sucking machine…

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          11 months ago

          Yeah the slowest environmentalists are the biggest threats to society too

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            Yeah man, it’s the environmentalists you gotta look out for, what with their wanting harmony among nature. I bet you’re fucking terrified of antifa too lmao.

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              Yes, environmentalists are tools programmed to bring down society from the inside out. They believe that it’s noble to destroy society in order to save the environment