• rottingleaf
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    11 months ago

    From the Israeli point of view yes you do.

    Hospitals being a forbidden target is important, civilians dying is not, because they don’t care about civilians.

    It’s sad to see how something intended to become a Jewish nation after 2k years and so on became a dumbed down pidgin version of 1950s’ late European colonialism.

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      11 months ago

      To defend that israel does not commit war crimes, I have seen zionists claim that if civilians are used for military purposes (involuntary human shield), they become valid military targets ._.

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          11 months ago

          I’d say that arguement is stronger because they had their whole life to prepare not to serve a genocidal army, instead of being made to participiate in war with no choice or warning. If we evaluate both using the metric of Free and Prior Informed Consent we see one is measurably worse.

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        11 months ago

        It’s because of the Geneva Convention (origin of the modern concept of war crimes.)

        It’s designed to be applied mutually, if only one side does then it’s basically non-functioning.

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          11 months ago

          Absolutely not. We already had this argument in regards to Iraq and Afghanistan. War crimes are war crimes. You can get away with some of the more esoteric ones for not fighting a signatory to the Geneva Conventions, but slaughtering civilians en masse is a crime full stop.

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          11 months ago

          I understand that many of the humanitarian safeguards and international law can be disadvantageous when only one side gets things right.
          But those are important guarantees, they are even used to differentiate the supposedly “good and civilized”, if they are discarded every time they are inconvenient, aren’t they just dead letter?