• blunderworld@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, because why should app developers get paid, right? They should all code for free at their local public library. Maybe live in a big ceramic jar like Diogenes.

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      1 year ago

      “Free” as in “freedom”, not price. There’s nothing stopping somebody from making money on FOSS.

      Goddam Richard Stallman really screwed the PR up on that one with the “free” thing.

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        The F in FOSS stands for free, IIRC. The ability to access, use, share the code, etc. has more to do with the open source part of the acronym. I haven’t really seen anyone complain about Sync being closed sourced so far… Just that you have to pay not to see ads.

        Ive only ever seen FOSS developers get support through donations. Which is nice and all, but likely not enough for an independent developer like ljdawson to survive on alone.

        Dont get me wrong, I like FOSS apps too, but the experience almost always suffers to some degree; its easy to see why. I just don’t get why Sync is being singled out like some kind of evil tech monopoly lately. As far as I can tell, its just an individual developer who released a great app for free (yes with ads, you’re the product, blah blah blah) with an optional lifetime payment to disable ads completely.

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            1 year ago

            Well then what’s the issue? Because every complaint I’ve seen so far has been about the optional monetary facet.

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              I think people are complaining about ads because ads imply tracking. I don’t know, I use Jerboa because I value the four freedoms, I’m not out here protesting non-free apps because the free apps work well enough for me.

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                1 year ago

                AFAIK the way ad revenue works is dependent on trackers. Paying to remove ads on Sync also removes all trackers according to many people who have tested it; still seems to come down to not wanting to pay the developer.

                Which is fine, of course. I just think framing the app as sketchy or something is completely misguided.

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                  Are Sync Free and Sync Paid Edition separate apps? Because if not, you still have some ad publishers framework on your phone and running. I’d guess it’s Google, which means play services are required. That’s a big no-go for degoogled Linux users.

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                    1 year ago

                    The dev said that the framework is completely disabled once you purchase the ad-free version. Various people also confirmed that statement with anti-tracking software.

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                    1 year ago

                    Donations don’t generate nearly as much money as purchases. I like open source just as much as the next person, but there’s no way that I could afford to drop my job and go full time into an open source project. Looking at Lemmy’s donations for example, the annual budget on OpenCollective is, at this time, ~$10k (which is significantly below US minimum wage at least), and their Patreon link shows $1650/mo. It’s a nice chunk of cash, but not sustainable.

                    One approach I’ve really liked is what Aseprite does. You can buy the precompiled product, or you can clone the repository and build it yourself. Most users won’t build it, so they get paid and still get to share the code with the community.

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      I’ve tried a few of the other apps, and didn’t like them that much. Sync is the first one I actually liked. Not sure if I want to pay for it, though

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        1 year ago

        In my experience you can have:

        1. Good app that is free with ads,
        2. Good app that is paid without ads,
        3. Shit to mediocre app that is free without ads.

        I’ve tried many alternatives, but so far the intuitiveness and beautiful UX of Sync stand apart from the competition for me. I respect FOSS apps, and even prefer them in some cases. But let’s not pretend that its the best approach for every developer, or that anyone who releases a non-FOSS app is automatically greedy or sketchy.