right after yuzu, fuck this sucks

  • git [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    44·
    10 months ago

    Citra will get forked and picked up by non-Yuzu devs.

    Yuzu team were clowns for stealing code from Ryujinx, incorporating in the USA, trying to launch a paid alternative to Nintendo Online for Yuzu, and hosting a Google Drive full of Switch ROMs for “testing” in their Discord. They were playing with napalm.

    If the user providing keys is a DMCA issue for Nintendo emulators, then ROMs will be uploaded as decrypted going forward.

    • BountifulEggnog [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      34·
      10 months ago

      The Google drive is the most insane part to me. Just so reckless, for so little potential upside. Why would you even allow talk like that, let alone participate.

      Edit: apparently they actually were linking right to a gdrive with the switch’s OS and games (I thought this was just talking about it, not providing it). Fucking idiots.

  • beef_curds [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    33·
    10 months ago

    I don’t really get what’s happening. Why now and not 10 years ago?

    Previously people would say it wasn’t pursued before because emulation itself is just reverse engineering, which is legal.

    • Cromalin [she/her]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      42·
      10 months ago

      i think it’s because the next console is coming out next year and they want to discourage anyone from trying to crack it

      they didn’t win a court case, nintendo just threatened to sue and settled on the condition that yuzu (and citra through yuzu) be shut down and pay like 2 million dollars. if nintendo thought they could win they wouldn’t have settled, they would have pushed through and won and permanently rendered emulators illegal. but they couldn’t do that, so they’ll just try and scare everyone off from doing anythign

      • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        38·
        10 months ago

        Also the speculation is that the Switch 2 is basically just an upgraded Switch, so the thought is that with very little effort emulators like Yuzu would be able to play Switch 2 games. Nintendo wants to shut it down ahead of that happening to try to prevent the Switch 2 architecture from being cracked for as long as possible.

        That said with Yuzu being open source, Nintendo won’t win that fight in the long term. But it will probably delay the Switch 2 emulator development by quite a bit which their bean counters assume is a win.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
          14·
          10 months ago

          But it will probably delay the Switch 2 emulator development by quite a bit which their bean counters assume is a win.

          Definitely someone with a spreadsheet out there who can tell you how much money they’ll hypothetically make based on the spread between emulators existing and not existing.

          Although, I won’t lie, I tried out Yuzu for a few months and mostly just got frustrated with all the hoops I had to jump through to make it work. Ended up buying a Switch just to get a seamless play experience (which, in hindsight, I guess I regret?) I have to wonder how much business they’re going to ultimately lose because someone emulated the PS5, got frustrated, and ran off to buy that console instead.

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            7·
            10 months ago

            Although, I won’t lie, I tried out Yuzu for a few months and mostly just got frustrated with all the hoops I had to jump through to make it work. Ended up buying a Switch just to get a seamless play experience (which, in hindsight, I guess I regret?) I have to wonder how much business they’re going to ultimately lose because someone emulated the PS5, got frustrated, and ran off to buy that console instead.

            I’m the opposite. I have a switch and I’m trying to get emulators working so that Pokemon Scarlet and Xenoblade 3 don’t run like dogshit.

      • beef_curds [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        24·
        10 months ago

        Makes sense, I guess. Fuck Nintendo.

        They’re both open source projects. So it will be interesting how much time they’ll spend playing whackamole. Either way, it will chill development bc at the very least the main devs will probably not go back. Sad.

        Citra going down really hurts because CTGP-7 is such a great project, and I feel like this is going to chill big projects too.

        • Cromalin [she/her]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          12·
          10 months ago

          i doubt they’ll spend much time on it, they’ve done enough damage already. i bet they’ve already done enough to scare any major projects from developing for long enough that they won’t be around for the first months of launch which is probably the main goal (though obviously if they could shut down all emulation they would)

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    31·
    10 months ago

    I’m probably the biggest Disney Nintendo Adult who posts here, and even I think this is stupid as hell. I’ve got a whole fucking shelf of (3)DS games we paid for, but can’t play because our 3DS broke and isn’t repairable. Citra let us play them.

    Eat my shit and hair, Nintendo.

  • Comradesexual@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    19·
    10 months ago

    Never owning a Nintendo and not playing their games is easy. I’d rather not have my hobby risk having someone’s life utterly ruined by a capitalist hypergreed corpo but idk maybe it’s just me.

    • normalmente@hexbear.netEnglish
      14·
      10 months ago

      Nintendo products are also extremely expensive and niche. Like no wonder people are using illegal copies. If your parents aren’t white upper middle class good luck with playing more than like 2 nintendo games a year.

      That’s if you’re even that target demographic, fuck all single adults who live alone I guess?

    • Cromalin [she/her]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      29·
      10 months ago

      yuzu settled out of court, but the terms were basically yuzu giving up literally everything and never working on anything similar ever again and also paying nintendo 2.4 million dollars

      at least they don’t owe nintendo all the money they make for the rest of their lives like happened with that other guy i suppose

      • KnilAdlez [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        14·
        10 months ago

        It’s worse, actually. They must also argue to a judge that:

        Developing or distributing software, including Yuzu, that in its ordinary course functions only when cryptographic keys are integrated without authorization, violates the Digital Millennium Copyright Act’s prohibition on trafficking in devices that circumvent effective technological measures, because the software is primarily designed for the purpose of circumventing technological measures.

  • Yurt_Owl@hexbear.netEnglish
    17·
    10 months ago

    I can vaguely understand yuzu even if i think its bullshit but citra? Why? They don’t fucking support the 3ds anymore its all abandonware