• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Shadowbans should just be illegal as a thing

    I bet you scream about your first amendment rights being violated whenever a moderator deletes your posts.

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      6 months ago

      A problem is that social media websites are simultaneously open platforms with Section 230 protections, and also publishers who have free speech rights. Those are contradictory, so which is it?

      Perhaps @rottingleaf was speaking morally rather than legally. For example, I might say “I believe everyone in America should have access to healthcare”; if you respond “no, there is no right to healthcare” you would be right, but you missed my point. I was expressing an moral aspiration.

      I think shadowbans are a bad mix of censorship and hard to detect. Morally, I believe they should be illegal. If a company wants to ban someone, they can be up front about it with a regular ban; make it clear what they are doing. To implement this legally, we could alter Section 230 protections so that they don’t apply to companies performing shadowbans.

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        6 months ago

        They are in no way publishers…ugh you people who don’t know shit about the law are insufferable.

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          6 months ago

          Feel free to educate us instead of just saying the equivalent of “you’re wrong and I hate reading comments like yours”.

          But I think, in general, the alteration to Section 230 that they are proposing makes sense as a way to keep these companies in check for practices like shadowbanning especially if those tools are abused for political purposes.

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      6 months ago

      I bet you think this reply was sharp-minded and on spot and something else.

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          6 months ago

          Oh, if this is not a figure of speech, then how much was your bet? I accept BTC (being in a sanctioned country and all that).

          Mine was, of course, this is not worth a penny to me, I already know your measure.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            If you would bet nothing, I guess you don’t actually believe your own words.

            Thanks for admitting what you said was false. I think we can move on now.

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              6 months ago

              If you would bet nothing, I guess you don’t actually believe your own words.

              There are a few factors, one of them is your value as a person.

              Thanks for admitting what you said was false.

              Why would you say that if that’s false?