cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19944734
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (KCTV) - A sight previously thought to be science fiction is very real at a southeast Kansas City shopping center. Instead of a police officer, a security robot has been patrolling sidewalks and shoppers are taking notice.
Since Marshall the robot has been on the job, shoppers say the experiences have completely changed when they come to these stores. The robot can spend 23 hours a day monitoring the parking lot from all angles which gives people a new sense of protection and ease they don’t always have when out.
Marshall took over security at Brywood Centre in April. Before that, Karen White noticed a lot of trouble outside the shopping center.
“Sometimes it’d be concerning for your car like someone could take it or something,” White said.
Knowing now that Marshall is always watching, the risk of crime does not worry her or others as much.
“It made it very better, like you can’t be in the parking lot without seeing the robot,” White continued. “So, I think it scared them off.”
This’ll last until somebody with a mask spray paints the cameras.
Imagine it had guns and tasers its gonna end horribly
did the engineers install red leds in the eyes? if yes we might have a problem
It could only be a joke. It is? Oh shit…
EXTERMINATE!!!
Wasn’t this the exact plot of Revolution of the Daleks?
I knew I was not the only one
CITIZEN! DO NOT BE ALARMED! YOU WILL FEEL A SMALL TICKLING SENSATION AND THEN DEATH!
He has a license plate reader, he has facial recognition, he can read IP addresses from your cell phone or watch,”
Uhhhh… How is it reading the ip addresses of people’s phones?
Someone made a mistake here. It’s not getting your IP address. An IP address is assigned by the gateway when you’re connected to an access point. An IP address is not an identity. They are always changing and can be shared. This has already been tested and upheld in court.
It’s actually collecting your MAC address. Which is exchanged when your phone or tablet scan nearby WiFi points or Bluetooth devices. However, this can already be defeated. By default iOS and Android both have the option to randomise the MAC address in intervals. Making it extremely difficult to prove anything. This feature exists because the devices real MAC address never changes. It is unique. Alternatively, users can disable WiFi and Bluetooth scanning entirely. However, your device no longer participates in the Find My Devices program by Apple and Google, location does take longer to acquire in some scenarios, and accuracy may take longer to triangulate.
Counter-argument, this is all correct, but when the application is against shopping mall criminals it will work well enough. Not talking masterminds here
It must be for wifi that they operate.
I imagine it MITM’s the wifi? Obviously wouldn’t work with cellular but thats the only this claim can ve even remotely true.
That being said they could do some shit with malicious bluetooth/NFC behaviour
Obviously wouldn’t work with cellular
Ever hear of a stingray?
Why would it need to MITM the WiFi? The store runs and operates the wifi
I’ve heard for a while that stores use Bluetooth to track you as you go through a store. Not for anything nefarious but just to understand how people move around the store typically. So it probably does that too.
Well its probably not a MITM if its just an official access point
It probably just has a WiFi repeater in it
I bet it was something like the hardware id instead but she misspoke
Scarier than I thought 😭
All I’m getting out of this is further proof that the “general publics” sense of safety exists entirely removed from anything fact based
Yeah all I see is an expensive CCTV system with high ongoing costs. Seriously it can be overpowered by a trash bag. It’s entirely security theatre.
If I give the robot a wegie and put a piece of dirty underwear in its head, will it shoot me?
It’s in America so yes.
My point is that this thing is a dumb robot tha doesn’t have a weapon. So its actually a step up from racist mall cops shooting people because they’re brown.
…If I give a cat a wegie and put a piece of dirty underwear on its head, will it shoot me?
Imagine shoplifting and they show up at the exit like:
HALT!
I’m pretty sure privacy goes out the window when you commit a crime. If it isn’t robots it would be humans arresting you.
Don’t support criminals in any form as they are the ones who are actively creating a need to stop crime.
The bootlicking version of “why do you need privacy if you have nothing to hide?”
One of these hit my car. It was out patrolling randomly in a parking lot and I pulled up to get a better look at it. I stopped like 6 ft in front of it but it just kept on coming and ran into my fucking car.
“You are illegally parked on private property. You have twenty seconds to move your vehicle.” -ED-209
Sorry, I laughed. Did it do damage? What was the outcome?
Left some paint on the car but that was it.
That’s the downside of having the invisible boatmobile, they just keep coming
First of all if you’re too scared to go into a store because you think your car is going to be robbed You’re probably too scared to live in public. However from the description it sounds like this thing’s just a tall camera? It can’t do anything except monitor? So how is this any better than those towers with cameras on them?
Psychology. Ever see ring doorbell footage where the owner says “drop the package” and people do? Its not like the owner could do anything, but for some reason it makes people behave differently.
This is in a pretty rough part of town
This is missouri, it’s not unrealistic that a car especially a those kias might get stolen.
“Pick up your gum wrapper. You have 20 seconds to comply…”
I read that in dalek voice
I read that in ED-209
Pick up that can
One time I threw it at him and it managed to bounce off of his chest into the can. I’ve never been able to replicate it. He still chased me around the room through lol.
I like to throw it at them, then sprint away to see if I can make it outside before I get smacked. It’s about 50/50.
put it. in the trash can.
gun wrapper
Ha, good catch. Damn you autocorrect!
Does it resemble a Dalek on purpose, I wonder?
It’s like if Aperture Science designed a Dalek
Perfection
I believe you mean:
This is a triumph
I think so, lol. Dalek security guards are scary indeed.
BIG BROTHER advanced to level 3.
On the one hand, yes, on the other hand, it’s unlikely to brutalize or kill people for minor offenses, so maybe a win for a public space?
I don’t know about you but I don’t like to be watched by big brother all the time.
Just put a blind fold on it?
Right there with you, but there’s no legal expectation of privacy in public, so it’s futile to complain about on that basis. Especially when ring doorbell cams are everywhere already. So the silver lining is a security robot won’t do this.
maybe no legal expectation, however I ask you when were you or any other common person asked about legal expectations. don’t come with “everyone at election”, because everyone knows its not true, in any sense
Dude, we’re on the same side in this, I just know
whatsome battles have already been lost.i understand, and sorry if I offended you. my problem was you were referring to a legal expectation as if that should be everyone’s personal expectation
Unlikely, but there is still a chance. It could always call its pig cousins to brutalize or kill you on its behalf.
Fair point!
