Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youāll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)
speaking of the Godot engine, hereās a layered sneer from the Cruelty Squad developer (via Mastodon):
image description
a post from Consumer Softproducts, the studio behind Cruelty Squad:
weve read the room and have now successfully removed AI from cruelty squad. each enemy is now controlled in almost real time by an employee in a low labor cost country
chefās kiss, no notes
and also speaking of Godot ā does anyone doing game dev right now have a good source for placeholder assets? I just finished all the introductory tutorials for the engine and now I want to flex what Iāve learned a bit
Itch and Kenney have good ones:
https://itch.io/game-assets/free
https://kenney.nl/assets (all CC0)
Synty also has a nice placeholder pack for $7. The post-it notes are kind of adorable:
https://syntystore.com/products/polygon-prototype-pack
I donāt think most of these are made for Godot, so you may have to mess around with import settings or set up tilesets/materials yourself
nice! it seems like Kenneyās a pretty popular choice for this kind of thing. Iām kinda tempted to grab their Asset Forge tool to quickly bang out some lo-fi semi-custom models, but I donāt know how its workflow looks for animations and materials. in the worst case, maybe itāll save me from half of the spiral learning curve that is Blender?
the synty pack looks really good! at a glance it seems like their assets come rigged for Unity ā maybe thereās a converter thatāll allow me to convert that rigging into the format Godotās animation system wants
was curious and threw some search queries at the internet. looks like there are a couple of convertor tools out there, although I obvies canāt comment on relative merits worth a damn without spending some time staring at innards and docs/usage
I donāt know how materials work in Asset Forge, but they have a guide on their site for exporting models to animate with Mixamo: https://kenney.nl/knowledge-base/asset-forge/rigging-a-character-using-mixamo. You could also animate things like moving platforms or doors in-engine with an AnimationPlayer.
Speaking of Asset Forge, Kenny Shape is a similar thing for quickly throwing assets together. It has a really fast 2D workflow for creating 3D models that reminds me of Doom mapping a little bit. For lo-fi levels, you might also like Crocotile 3D or the combo of TrenchBroom + Qodot. Crocotile is great for repurposing 2D pixel art tilesets from itch or OpenGameArt into 3D assets, and Trenchbroom/Qodot is a more fully featured level editor Iāve seen people work crazy fast in.
oh thatās awesome! I was wondering how Iād do fairly large levels for a 3D space, and it turns out the answer is that neither quake-style mapping nor competent tiling systems will ever go out of fashion
In other news, Hindenburg Research just put out a truly damning report on Roblox, aptly titled āRoblox: Inflated Key Metrics For Wall Street And A Pedophile Hellscape For Kidsā, and the markets have responded.
TIL Roblox is listed on the fucking stock market.
i wouldnāt want to sound like Iām running down Hintonās work on neural networks, itās the foundational tool of much of whatās called āAIā, certainly of ML
but uh, itās comp sci which is applied mathematics
how does this rate a physics Nobel??
Theyāre reeeaallly leaning into the fact that some of the math involved is also used in statistical physics. And, OK, we could have an academic debate about how the boundaries of fields are drawn and the extent to which the divisions between them are cultural conventions. But the more important thing is that the Nobel Prize is a bad institution.
a friend says:
effectively they made machine learning look like an Ising model, and you honestly have no idea how much theoretical physicists fucking love it when things turn out to be the Ising model
does that match your experience? if so iāll quote that
That sounds about right, yeah.
lol holy shit actual tweet
Image description: tweet from the official Nobel Prize account. Text reads,
Congratulations to our 2024 medicine laureate Victor Ambros āØ
This morning he celebrated the news of his prize with his colleague and wife Rosalind Lee, who was also the first author on the 1993 āCellā paper cited by the Nobel Committee.
#NobelPrize
Blake reaction description: sighing and muttering, āyep, assholes will assholeā
Wow. Congratulations to Rosalind Lee for her colleague and husbandās nobel. I can only dream of one day having my spouse be recognized with such prestigious accolade for something we have done.
yeah, takes from physicists i know range from āwtfā to āitās plaaausible with a streeetchā
looking through the committee, I see Ulf Danielsson is notable on AI mostly for being skeptical (he writes pop sci books so people ask him about all manner of shit)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62r02z75jyo
Itās going to be like the Industrial Revolution - but instead of our physical capabilities, itās going to exceed our intellectual capabilities ā¦ but I worry that the overall consequences of this might be systems that are more intelligent than us that might eventually take control
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Getting a head start on that Nobel disease.
This work getting the physics nobel for āusing physicsā is reeeeeeal fuckin tangential
Also: TL note: 11,000,000 Swedish Krona equals 11,386,313.85 Norwegian Krone
the mozilla PR campaign to convince everyone that advertising is the lifeblood of commerce and that this is perfectly fine and good (and that everyone should just accept their viewpoint) continues
We need to stare it straight in the eyes and try to fix it
try, you say? and whatās your plan for when you fail, but youāve lost all your values in service of the attempt?
For this, we owe our community an apology for not engaging and communicating our vision effectively. Mozilla is only Mozilla if we share our thinking, engage people along the way, and incorporate that feedback into our efforts to help reform the ecosystem.
are you fucking kidding me? āwe can only be who we are if we maybe sorta listen to you while we keep doing what we wanted to doā? seriously?
How do we ensure that privacy is not a privilege of the few but a fundamental right available to everyone? These are significant and enduring questions that have no single answer. But, for right now on the internet of today, a big part of the answer is online advertising.
How do we ensure that traffic safety is not a privilege of the few but a fundamental right available to everyone? A big part of the answer is drunk driving.
How do we prevent huge segments of the world from being priced out of access through paywalls?
Based Mozilla. Abolish landlords. Obliterate the commodity form. Full luxury gay communism now.
What a pisstake. Shit I donāt want to use palemoon, are there any other browsers???
the purestrain corporate non-apology that is āwe should have communicated our vision effectivelyā when your entire community is telling you in no uncertain terms to give up on that vision because itās a terrible idea nobody wants
āitās a failure in our messaging that we didnāt tell you about the thing youād hate in advance. if we were any good we wouldāve gotten out ahead of it (and made you think itās something else)ā
and the thing is, thatās probably exactly the lesson theyāre going to be learning from this :|
Donāt know how much this fits the community, as you use a lot of terms Iām not inherently familiar with (is there a āwelcome guideā of some sort somewhere I missed).
Anyway, Wikipedia moderators are now realizing that LLMs are causing problems for them, but they are very careful to not smack the beehive:
The purpose of this project is not to restrict or ban the use of AI in articles, but to verify that its output is acceptable and constructive, and to fix or remove it otherwise.
I justā¦ donāt have words for how bad this is going to go. How much work this will inevitably be. At least weāll get a real world example of just how many guardrails are actually needed to make LLM text āworkā for this sort of use case, where neutrality, truth, and cited sources are important (at least on paper).
I hope some people watch this closely, Iām sure thereās going to be some gold in this mess.
The purpose of this project is not to restrict or ban the use of AI in articles, but to verify that its output is acceptable and constructive, and to fix or remove it otherwise.
Wikipediaās mod team definitely havenāt realised it yet, but this part is pretty much a de facto ban on using AI. AI is incapable of producing output that would be acceptable for a Wikipedia article - in basically every instance, its getting nuked.
lol i assure you that fidelitously translates to ākill it with fireā
Yeah, that sounds like text which somebody quickly typed up for the sake of having something.
it is impossible for a Wikipedia editor to write a sentence on Wikipedia procedure without completely tracing the fractal space of caveats.
Iād like to believe some of them have, but itās easier or more productive to keep giving the benefit of the doubt (or at at least pretend to) than argue the point.
Welcome to the club. They say a shared suffering is only half the suffering.
This was discussed in last weekās Stubsack, but I donāt think we mind talking about talking the same thing twice. I, for one, do not look forward to browsing Wikipedia exclusively through pre-2024 archived versions, so I hope (with some pessimism) their disapponintingly milquetoast stance works out.
Reading a bit of the old Reddit sneerclub can help understand some of the Awful vernacular, but otherwise itās as much of a lurkmoar as any other online circlejerk. The old guard keep referencing cringe techbros and TESCREALs Iāve never heard of while I still canāt remember which Scott A weāre talking about in which thread.
Scott Computers is married and a father but still writes like an incel and fundamentally canāt believe that anyone interested in computer science or physics might think in a different way than he does. Dilbert Scott is an incredibly divorced man. Scott Adderall is the leader of the beige tribe.
Scott Adderall
You Give Adderall A Bad Name
shit wasnāt there another one
There is always another Scott.
you know, one of the most abusive shitty people Iāve ever personally known was also a Scott
Montgomery Scott clearly statistical anomaly
Ah, but heās not really a Scott so much as a Scot, and a Monty to boot.
oh you did better than I did
5 internet cookies to you
Donāt know how much this fits the community, as you use a lot of terms Iām not inherently familiar with (is there a āwelcome guideā of some sort somewhere I missed)
first impression: your post is entirely on topic, welcome to the stubsack
techtakes is a sister sub to sneerclub (also on this instance, previously on reddit) and that one has a bit of an explanation. generally any (classy) sneerful critique of bullshit and wankery goes, modulo making space for chuds/nazis/debatelords/etc (those get shown the exit)
Now in 404media.
you use a lot of terms Iām not inherently familiar with (is there a āwelcome guideā of some sort somewhere I missed).
weāre pretty receptive to requests for explanations of terms here, just fyi! I imagine if it begins to overwhelm commenting, a guide will be created. Unfortunately there is something of an arms race between industry buzzword generation and good sense, and we are on the side of good sense.
PC Gamer put out a pro-AI piece recently - unsurprisingly, Twitter tore it apart pretty publicly:
I could only find one positive response in the replies, and that one is getting torn to shreds as well:
I did also find a quote-tweet calling the current AI bubble an āanti-art period of timeā, which has been doing pretty damn well:
Against my better judgment, Iām whipping out another sidenote:
With the general flood of AI slop on the Internet (a slop-nami as Iāve taken to calling it), and the quasi-realistic style most of it takes, I expect weāre gonna see photorealistic art/visuals take a major decline in popularity/cultural cachet, with an attendant boom in abstract/surreal/stylised visuals
On the popularity front, any artist producing something photorealistic will struggle to avoid blending in with the slop-nami, whilst more overtly stylised pieces stand out all the more starkly.
On the ācultural cachetā front, I can see photorealistic visuals becoming seen as a form of ātechno-kitschā - a form of āanti-artā which suggests a lack of artistic vision/direction on its creatorsā part, if not a total lack of artistic merit.
Why is it always bioshock girl š
Another upcoming train wreck to add to your busy schedule: OāReilly (the tech book publisher) is apparently going to be doing ai-translated versions of past works. Not everyone is entirely happy about this. I wonder how much human oversight will be involved in the process.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/parisba_publications-activity-7249244992496361472-4pLj
translate technically fiddly instructions of the type where people have trouble spotting mistakes, with patterned noise generators. what could go wrong
Earlier today, the Internet Archive suffered a DDoS attack, which has now been claimed by the BlackMeta hacktivist group, who says they will be conducting additional attacks.
Hacktivist group? The fuck can you claim to be an activist for if your target is the Internet Archive?
Training my militia of revolutionary freedom fighters to attack homeless shelters, soup kitchens, nature preserves, libraries, and childrenās playgrounds.
conservative who supports homeless shelters, soup kitchens, nature preserves, libraries, and childrenās playgrounds for accelerationist reasons
The average orange site hacktivist libertarian. They are just mad about the hypocrisy you see.
(This post was sponsored by the hn guy who was mad at the tech guy who stopped doing startups as he had not given back all the money. Btw the actual communications of sn_blackmeta seem quite weird, talking about the global zionists the devil and having a certain āim 16 and this is deep and edgy qualityā. For ex see this).
Maybe one day self-righteous computer crackers will get over the V for Vendetta, apocalypse cult, latin chanting, hooded robes, āwe are anonymoos we are a legionella we do not froggerā aesthetic and I can stop cringing about it.
Fucking goofy ahh KKK shit.
You can say ass here
Yes but I like the āahhā, it makes me imagine people doing a random little moan in the middle of the sentence.
I feel like the Internet Archive is a prime target for techfashy groups. Both for the amount of culture you can destroy, and because backed up webpages often make people with an ego the size of the sun look stupid.
Also, I canāt remember but didnāt Yudkowsky or someone else pretty plainly admit to taking a bunch of money during the FTX scandal? I swear he let slip that the funds were mostly dried up. I donāt think it was ever deleted, but thatās the sort of thing you might want to delete and could get really angry about being backed up in the Internet Archive. I think Siskind has edited a couple articles until all the fashy points were rounded off and that could fall in a similar boat. Maybe not him specifically, but thereās content like that that people would rather not be remembered and the Internet Archive falling apart would be good news to them.
Also (again), it scares me a little that their servers are on public tours. Like itād take one crazy person to do serious damage to it. I donāt know but Iām hoping their >100PB of storage is including backups, even if itās not 3-2-1. Iām only mildly paranoid about it lol.
it scares me a little that their servers are on public tours
frankly, the entire design of IA is more than a bit fucking stupid for the purpose it serves. āoh hey hereās the whole IA, right in this building over hereā is just galaxybrained derpery
physical goods I can understand central-point (or some centralisation) in archive management, but ffs weāre multiple decades into knowing how to build things differently
(stance contextualisation: while Iām glad that the IA exists, Iām not an unreserved stan of it. there are a couple other notable concerns with it, alongside the thing I just mentioned)
@BlueMonday1984 whoever this dipshit is needs to fucking stop
Someone shared this website with me at work and now I am sharing the horror with you all: https://www.syntheticusers.com/
Reduce your time-to-insight
I do not think that word means what they think it means.
Emily Bender devoted a whole episode of Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000 to this.
I have nothing to add, save the screaming.
Synthetic Users uses the power of LLMs to generate users that have very high Synthetic Organic Parity. We start by generating a personality profile for each user, very much like a reptilian brain around which we reconstruct its personality. Itās a reconstruction because we are relying on the billions of parameters that LLMs have at their disposal.
They couldāve worded this so many other ways
But I suppose creepyness is a selling point these days
they put bullshit inside my bullshit industry for generating bullshit??? the investors are delighted!
the only positive is that their carousel pitch is at least honest about the desire
and that list of companies whoāve supposedly used it is telling, I guess
the rest of thisā¦.oh dear god
Nobody likes Bryan Johnsonās breakfast at the Network School
A cafe run by immortality-obsessed multi-millionaire Bryan Johnson is reportedly struggling to attract customers with students at the crypto-funded Network School in Singapore preferring the hotelās breakfast buffet over ābunny food.ā
I did not expect to be tricked into reading about the nighttime erections of the man with the most severe midlife crisis in the world.
he has 80% fewer gray hairs, representing a ā31-year age reversalā
According to Wikipedia this guy is 47. Sorry about your hair as a teenager I guess? I hope the early graying didnāt lead to any long term self-esteem issues.
Alternatively, he only had 5 gray hairs to begin with I guess? Iām more concerned about the fact that heās apparently taking time to set a timer whenever he gets hard at night. I donāt want to yuck anyoneās yum, but Iām pretty sure youāre doing it wrong if youāre taking time out of the experience to collect those metrics.
If he collects enough metrics, he could make a horrendously cursed blogpost out of it like Aella
The Network School offers Johnsonās healthy food and a fitness program called the Blueprint Protocol. He claims that after three years of following his blueprint the duration of his night-time erections totals 179 minutes, ābetter than the average 18-year-oldā
Yeah, this is a very normal diet thatās advertising itself in very normal ways.
Iām trying to imagine the kind of wacky gross VR body tracking setup youād need to measure that metric while asleep and all Iām coming up with is mutilated Powerglove
thatās because youāre discounting
quantified dating, and the scorecard he gives partners to fill out
what is the utility of 179 minutes of night-time erections
as a warning to others
my first thought reading this was that you meant it could be a deterrent to burglars. then I imagined a pair of increasingly nervous burglars timing his erections and freaking out as it hit 179 minutes. āwe gotta bail man, thatās longer than the average 18 year oldā
When I was adjusting to a high fiber diet for medical reasons I couldnāt figure out why I was so incredibly hungry despite eating enough.
Then I realized āhuh, I havenāt had any fat at all for the past weekā and went and made myself four slices of buttery toast and they were so tasty.
I want a menu!
What do you think is the venn diagram of āpeople who go to The Network Schoolā and āmen who believe in the meat-only dietā? I imagine thereās a lot of crossover
Now if it was Brian Johnson from AC/DC, I bet itād be awesome.
Not a sneer, but I saw an article that was basically an extremely goddamn long list of forum recommendations and it gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside.
Thatās awesome. Lemmy is great, but old-school forums are just something else.
For a burst of nostalgia for at least some of you nerds (lovingly), let me add forums.spacebattles.com to the list
If you mention SpaceBattles we also need to add Sufficient Velocity for completenessās sake.
Thereās another one that focuses mostly on erotic fiction but since thatās not really my bag Iāve forgotten what itās called. And I think itās not as big as SB and SV anyway since that user base is mostly on AO3 these days.
Online art school Schoolism publicly sneers at AI art, gets standing ovation
And now, a quick sidenote:
This is gut instinct, but Iām starting to get the feeling this AI bubbleās gonna destroy the concept of artificial intelligence as we know it.
Mainly because of the slop-nami and the AI industryās repeated failures to solve hallucinations - both of those, I feel, have built an image of AI as inherently incapable of humanlike intelligence/creativity (let alone Superintelligencetm), no matter how many server farms you build or oceans of water you boil.
Additionally, I suspect that working on/with AI, or supporting it in any capacity, is becoming increasingly viewed as a major red flag - a ātech asshole signifierā to quote Baldur Bjarnason for the bajillionth time.
For a specific example, the major controversy that swirled around āScooby Doo, Where Are You? Inā¦ SPRINGTRAPPED!ā over its use of AI voices would be my pick.
Eagan Tilghman, the man behind the
slaughteranimation, may have been a random indie animator, who made Springtrapped on a shoestring budget and with zero intention of making even a cent off it, but all those mitigating circumstances didnāt save the poor bastard from getting raked over the coals anyway. If that isnāt a bad sign for the future of AI as a concept, I donāt know what is.I think a couple of people noted it at the start, but this is truly a paradigm shift.
Weāve had so many science fiction stories, works, derivatives, musing about AI in so many ways, what if it were malevolent, what if it rebelled, what if it took all jobsā¦ But I donāt think our collective consciousness was aware of the āwhat if it was just utterly stupid and incompetentā possibility.
I donāt think our collective consciousness was aware of the āwhat if it was just utterly stupid and incompetentā possibility.
Its a possibility which doesnāt make for good sci-fi (unless youāre writing an outright dystopia (e.g. Paranoia)), so sci-fi writers were unlikely to touch it.
The tech industry had enjoyed a lengthy period of unvarnished success and conformist press up to this point, so Joe Public probably wasnāt gonna entertain the idea that this shiny new tech could drop the ball until they saw something like the glue pizza sprawl.
And the tech press isnāt gonna push back against AI, for obvious reasons.
So, Iām not shocked this revelation completely blindsided the public.
I think a couple of people noted it at the start, but this is truly a paradigm shift.
Yeah, this is very much a paradigm shift - I donāt know how wide-ranging the consequences will be, but I expect weāre in for one hell of a ride.
Paranoia is the only one I can think of thatās actually pretty well on the money because the dystopian elements come from the fact that the wildly incompetent friend computer has been given total power despite everyone on some level knowing that fact, even if they canāt admit it (anymore) without being terminated. The secret societies all think they can work the situation to their advantage and it provides a convenient scapegoat for terrible things they probably want to do anyways.
Alan Moore wrote a comic book story about AI about 10 years ago that parodied rationalist ideas about AI and it still holds up pretty well. Sadly the whole thing isnāt behind that link - I saw it on Twitter and canāt find it now.
Proton continuing to do pointlessly stupid and self-destructive things:
https://infosec.exchange/@malwaretech/113257047424000919
Theyāre basically admitting they didnāt pay an influencer to spread misinformation about public wifi in order to sell VPN products, they just stole her likeness, used her photo, and attributed completely made up quote to her.
But it was a joke guys! We did a satire! Iām totally certain I know what satire is!
The logical conclusion of normalizing āSocial Media Managerā as a role in companies is that as they get better at their jobs and become more believable, the average corporate communication will trend towards 13-year old edgy shitposter. God I feel old.
every time I get mail āeven a š¤ teensy bit like this! š¤©ā from serious-company I have actual financial dealings with, a part of me dies inside
and itās getting more goddamn frequent too
Imagine, a corporation finding their own voice, as a proper signal of their awareness of their customers. Nope, gotta sell your soul to tech stocks.
I really think that Naomi Klein pointing out the brand being the product created a wave of tech entrepreneurs who reacted by making the user experience the product and now weāre seeing how bad they are at the most basic brand maintenance.
Plus they create brands that cultivate a following that is not compatible with corporate growth interests. Proton are like Mozilla, they wanna play with the bad kids but they promised their parents theyād come straight home
Any mild pushback to the claims of LLM companies sure bring out the promptfondlers on lobste.rs
https://lobste.rs/s/qcppwf/llms_don_t_do_formal_reasoning_is_huge
Plenty of agreement, but also a lot of āwhat is reasoning, reallyā and āhumans are dumb too, so itās not so surprisingly GenAIs are too!ā. This is sure a solid foundation for multi-billion startups, yes sirree.
itās kind of comforting that the current attitude towards generative AI in some tech spaces is āof course it canāt do cognition and it isnāt really good for anything, who said it wasā which is of course rich from the exact same posters who were breathlessly advertising for the tech as revolutionary both online and at work as recently as a couple of weeks ago (and a lot of them still hedge it with ābut it might be useful in the near futureā). the comfort is it feels like that attitude comes from deep embarrassment, like how the orange site started claiming it is and always was skeptical of crypto once the technology got irrevocably associated with scams and gambling and a lot of the easy money left
yeah, thereās a stench of desperation from the defenders
of course, as with crypto, there are uses (in the case of crypto , nothing legitimate). And it will be going to be a fallback for fondlers to point them out (for example, I believe that auto-generated audiobooks are viable, if theyāre generated from actual books)
I was watching a h0ffman stream the other day when someone happened to bring up autoplag in some context. didnāt see the asking context, but h0ffmanās answer warmed my heart. paraphrased: āwhat would you want to use that for? you wouldnāt steal a mod, why would you want to use a prompt? that stole from artists. fuck that shit.ā
(h0ffmanās one of the names in the demoscene, often plays sets at compos, does some of his own demos, etc)
these chuds lack self awareness and they never realise that by moving the goalposts on brain stuff they are admitting their own idiocy.
from this article
Amazon asked Chun to dismiss the case in December, saying the FTC had raised no evidence of harm to consumers.
ah yes, the company thatās massively monopolized nearly all markets, destroyed choice, constantly ships bad products (whose existence is incentivised by programs of its own devising), and that has directly invested in enhanced price exploitation technologies? that one? yeah, totes no harm to consumers there
