The easiest giveaway is when they spell his name “Hassan”

This is the kind of opinion really sheltered people get to have; if they traveled beyond Western countries, and especially to places we designated as ‘hostile’, or ‘the enemy’, they’d realize it’s more than their opinion that’s shitty, it’s them being shitty.

Anthony Bourdain traveled to the kinds of countries Destiny would hate (like Iran) and he didn’t come away with the impression that they should be genocided. Also he traveled to the West bank: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthonyBourdain/comments/17vau25/chef_bourdain_calling_out_bs_wherever_in_the/

It’s a shame he didn’t sit and speak with a Palestinian family, but honestly they probably wouldn’t have been safe from the fallout (and who’s going to do anything about the people/forces that come after them? The international community?)

oh, the gusano who says racial slurs and wears blackface has a horrific opinion?

He’s a diagnosed sociopath, so his reaction makes sense

The only thing that racist freak/loser will do is recite wikipedia and talk over obnoxiously.

Destiny streams on Kick now, he was permabanned from Twitch ever since he

then google it. mr. klein has been publicly feuding with hasan for months. people here are broadly familiar with that. you pushing the glasses up on your nose and saying, “um, actually, if events aren’t mentioned in the article from fox news, then they didn’t happen,” is asinine. no investigation, no right to speak

Ok, so, to break it down for you, as simply as possible, the people in this thread are trying to tell you that without Ethan Klein doing his best to deplatform Hasan, people at Fox News probably wouldn’t know who Hasan is, or, at the very least, they wouldn’t have written an article also trying to deplatform him.

Now, whether that analysis is right or not, I have no idea. I don’t watch Hasan, I don’t know anything about Ethan Klein, so yeah, no clue. But I think the claim is pretty straightforward, and it is as follows: without Ethan Klein trying to deplatform Hasan, Fox News wouldn’t have written this article. And the truth or falsity of that claim has nothing to do with whether Ethan Klein or his supporters are mentioned in the article itself.

Here’s how it’s relevant CW: a lot of racism in this compilation of ethan being a massive piece of shit

It relates if you’ve read the article, where the Yemeni teen was mentioned (ctrl + f the following)

In January, Piker platformed a teenaged Houthi sympathizer he likened to acclaimed actor Timothée Chalamet due to his appearance. The stream was uploaded to YouTube under the name “INTERVIEWING YEMENI TIMOTHEE CHALAMET.”

There, uh, Klein and Piker butt heads on that issue, and that led to their drama, and Ethan Klein making a fuss about it…

It’s quite tangential, though, if I must say… one guys know another guy who knows another guy…

Ethan has been heading a campaign to get Hasan banned from twitch. Like, daily unhinged posts about it. More recently he’s been asking Destiny’s orbiters to dig up dirt for him.

Fair enough, noted. I’ll keep the educational potential in mind a bit more.

If he was being intentionally obtuse (likely) I wanted to drag that out of him. With patient explanations.

Yeah I do sometimes wish we had a bit more time to play with them but either way works for me

I don’t feel like this is a particularly useful conversation, so I’ll just leave it with this reply and move on.

But did you ignore the part where he can’t be full on “hang the rich, take their shit, let’s go boys”? And I’m exaggerating because you’re exaggerating. I was using Bernie as an example. I also used Lula. Why no comment on Lula? He’s not perfect either. He’s not full blown commie either. He’s to the left of Bernie though and has shown it by condemning Israel without reservations. Whatever hangups you have towards Bernie, ok, I probably share them (mostly his support or not total condemnation of US imperialism especially). If you wouldn’t cooperate with Lula though I think “lost deep, deep down in the sauce” might apply.

This is also ignoring literally all the context just so some point, which wasn’t even a good point, imo (see above), can be made. Hasan isn’t a politician. He’s not a political leader. You know this because you correctly pointed out streamers aren’t going to save us, or whatever.

He’s the equivalent basically of like Tucker or Hannity, etc. Not a journalist, just a person who consumes journalists’ output and then “has opinions” on that output. Basically interpreting it for a broad audience that wants to hear “politics man” regurgitate the slop but with a “but here’s what’s actually going on.”

This is probably something most people who think like you or I could do as well. Maybe that’s why you view it as purely slop and worthless. I disagree. Just because we could do it doesn’t mean anything. We aren’t doing it. Few people are doing it with any real audience. He does it to an audience of like 30-40K live viewers daily for half the damn day. Constantly refuting US narratives, shitting on pro-imperialism chatters, etc. Is this worthless to you? To have a guy with a large audience willing to yell at chatters (normal young Americans or Europeans, for the most part) for their ignorant or just purely evil opinions on imperialism?

To me this is the exact opposite of worthless. It has immense value. Many of these young people have never heard of Marxism. They may have little idea about why and how the US carries out its imperialist goals worldwide. He humanizes the victims of imperialism and he yells at these wild hogs the way no one else (with visibility) is doing.

If every single chatter ended up coming to believe exactly the same things Hasan does, the United States and the world as a result would be infinitely better. More humane, more fair, etc. It wouldn’t be perfect.

I just do not see any point in tearing down or attacking people like Hasan. Attack the right wing streamers, sure, have at it. And the libs. But guys that are 1 inch to your right…? How is this constructive? Sincerely, I would like to know what you’d rather he do, say, or whatever. Is there even an opinion on that front or is it just generalized anger at him for being a wealthy American (which is legitimate, but just say that if it’s what you feel. It makes this a lot easier)? Is it just “kill all streamers”? That’s a great meme, but this is me asking past the meme.

I feel like most of the time people don’t really specifically have anything against him or what he says/does. They just have resentment towards the fact that he can even exist. That entertainers and streamers exist. I understand that feeling as well. In a perfect world maybe the “no streamers” thing would be real. I also don’t see a point in condemning basically the best example of one person successfully doing it in the least harmful way.

I firmly believe that a “dude bro” yelling at teens and 20 year olds to stop believing capitalist, imperialist bullshit narratives (and showing them evidence why) is a net positive. That’s my underlying “thesis” or whatever here.

Well, I can’t say how much active danger he’s in… but theres a huge difference between individual actors (just some angry chuds), who can mostly be deterred by a security detail, and state actors. State actors are a much more significant threat, which I don’t need to explain.

If the main threat is from chuds, moving to a country less involved in the culture war and investing in good security could already help quite a bit.

If we’re talking about state actors… well, I guess he could claim political asylum in China or Russia if he wants to be as safe as possible.

EDIT : OFC Moving to a non-western country is gonna paint him as a foreign agent …but lets be real the way things are going they might fuck with him even without him moving to China.