• Frog@lemmy.ca
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    13 hours ago

    Tipping culture should die.

    I’d rather have meals on the menu be what I pay. Include tax, service fees, and other garbage fees.

    I went to Japanese restaurant in NYC. They took my card and they returned it. I asked about the tip. They said it was all included. Fucking dream.

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      11 hours ago

      Not being an American the whole idea of not including tax in the stated price just seems so alien. You expect me to work out what 12.5% of my bill is on the fly as I’m shopping? Fuck you, that’s your job. You are the one actually paying the tax to the government, you work it out

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          2 hours ago

          In Canada, they have the wireless chip readers everywhere. It was nice since a large chunk of stolen credit cards are when employees scan it before charging it.

          Some places in the USA is starting to do the same thing. But yes, the US is way behind.

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            9 hours ago

            Do you guys still do the hilarious chip & sign thing or have you finally switched to using a PIN?

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              6 hours ago

              You think that’s hilarious? There are a lot of places in the world that still do a manual shhk-shhk of a card only a few years ago. Now that most cards don’t have raised digits, they’ll write it down. If they even take a card.

              Places where the Internet goes down if it rains and there is no mobile service. Imagine the horror.

              The other side of the coin - paying with debit (which has a pin) is stupid in the US. Unless you can’t control your spending, credit card is the way to go for every legal purchase you don’t mind being tied to you forever. CCs have far superior consumer protection than the law.

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        9 hours ago

        You are the one actually paying the tax to the government, you work it out

        Also they would only have to do it once per item, shoppers have to do it every time!

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      12 hours ago

      Thia is where you should name and praise the restaurant

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      11 hours ago

      Waiters are against it as they may get way more than if they were paid by the owner. Also they automatically get raises when menu prices increases.

      What blows my mind is that American do tip everywhere and also give cash to some workers at the end of the year (mail man, garbage man,… Etc).

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        9 hours ago

        Waiters are against it as they get way more than if they were paid by the owner.

        They’re not against it, and they don’t.

        Source: was waiter for a decade

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          5 hours ago

          If you are paid $15/h that is 20% of $75. Don’t you think that the clients you will serve will pay way more than that during an hour?

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            See, I don’t need to think hypothetically. I lived it. This “you’ll akshually make more money this way” is the shit owners spout so they don’t have to pay you. Self-serving prop to feed those who don’t know better, simply and completely untrue.

            I used to love looking at my negative dollar paychecks showing my paltry 2.13 didn’t even cover the fuggen taxes on my tips while the manager espoused that falsehood in the mandatory monthly meetings

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            33 minutes ago

            If youre interested, id be happy to detail the realtities of waiting tables. Here’s a big one non-waiters don’t always know: all your tips are claimed these days. Your gross tips are taxed, after which your tips are split (either required tip-out % or full tip pooling) between the other staff.

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      11 hours ago

      There is a korean place I love in a city in a neighboring state. Worth driving over an hour to get that sweet sweet meal with tax and tip included in the menu price

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      9 hours ago

      They took my card and they returned it

      Welcome to 2000 ? I cant remember the last time i carried a card, wtf.

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        1 hour ago

        I have 1 credit card on my phone. I carry 1 debit card, my driver’s license, and about 4 other credit cards with me.

        I really don’t like the idea of losing my phone and my only way of paying for things at the same time. At least if I lose my phone, I can still pay for stuff. If I lose my wallet, I can still use my phone to pay for stuff or to call.

        I have a physical copy of my car insurance and I also have it on my phone.