It’s about me saying I literally did not notice as I do not see gender in words like you do.
I admit that when using English I notice it more when it’s a feminine pronoun than when it’s a masculine one.
The point I’m making is that I did not misgender anyone. If anything, I disgendered English.
So no. I’m not going to admit to misgendering someone, when I most certainly don’t do that on purpose. What I might do is not read the username of a person I’m replying to. As I prefer responding to the message, not the person.
It’s not my fault English isn’t gender neutral when I am. I naturally speak and think in a way that does not account for gender. Would you like for me to start replacing that with archaic gender stereotypes?
No you didn’t, masculine is still a gender. I’m totally willing to believe that this was an innocent mistake to begin with but by tripling down on it like this you’re just being a dick.
It’s not my fault English isn’t gender neutral when I am. I naturally speak and think in a way that does not account for gender.
You understand that English does have gender neutral pronouns, right? “His” just isn’t one of them. At any rate, given that Rose has her pronouns in her display name there’s no need to use neutral language anyway.
Name a gender-neutral singular third person pronoun from English that isn’t “it” (calling people “it” in English is very offensive, but in Finnish it’s just natural colloquialism, but I know enough to avoid that in English)
eta: to degender your comment you could say “this person knows their junkies”
but being as you’ve been beaten over the head with the fact that the OP uses she/her pronouns that would also be misgendering her.
leaving it as using a masculine pronoun is rude at best and blatantly transphobic at worst. nobody thinks you were being actively harmful when you said it but not being willing to change it is toxic.
It can be used to refer to single people, and using a plural instead of a singular is a very common way for many languages to show deference to the person you’re speaking to. Like in Finland. English already did that and did it so much it got rid of the second person singular, as “you” is a second person plural. This ofc meant there was nowhere for English to go vis-a-vis showing deference, so English really stresses titles. Narcissism of small differences, really.
nobody thinks…
Based on the votes I’ll have to disagree and say you don’t really know what others think.
So, to reiterate, you would rather that I start using archaic stereotypes to think about people and language? I have to condition myself into thinking of everyone as either a boy or a girl, and always make a mental note to gender someone as soon as I make contact with them? The first thing I do should be to gender them? That’s your takeaway?
Maybe try reading my comments again, with some thought. You’re not the hero here.
They didn’t apologize, they doubled down with some of the most insipid bullshit about pronouns not existing in English and how they’re “depronouning english”, despite defaulting to using the masculine, instead of just saying “oh yeah, I didn’t see the name, I’ll edit my comment”.
Dude would it really be that hard for you to edit your comment instead of whatever this is?
Do you have to run around taking offense on other’s behalf?
Oh it’s not about this being hard.
It’s about me saying I literally did not notice as I do not see gender in words like you do.
I admit that when using English I notice it more when it’s a feminine pronoun than when it’s a masculine one.
The point I’m making is that I did not misgender anyone. If anything, I disgendered English.
So no. I’m not going to admit to misgendering someone, when I most certainly don’t do that on purpose. What I might do is not read the username of a person I’m replying to. As I prefer responding to the message, not the person.
It’s not my fault English isn’t gender neutral when I am. I naturally speak and think in a way that does not account for gender. Would you like for me to start replacing that with archaic gender stereotypes?
No you didn’t, masculine is still a gender. I’m totally willing to believe that this was an innocent mistake to begin with but by tripling down on it like this you’re just being a dick.
You understand that English does have gender neutral pronouns, right? “His” just isn’t one of them. At any rate, given that Rose has her pronouns in her display name there’s no need to use neutral language anyway.
Calm down guy, it doesnt even seem like the person you’re talking about took offense with it. Why claim their outage for your own?
yawn
This whole-ass thread is terrible and I downvoted everyone
Name a gender-neutral singular third person pronoun from English that isn’t “it” (calling people “it” in English is very offensive, but in Finnish it’s just natural colloquialism, but I know enough to avoid that in English)
they
eta: to degender your comment you could say “this person knows their junkies”
but being as you’ve been beaten over the head with the fact that the OP uses she/her pronouns that would also be misgendering her.
leaving it as using a masculine pronoun is rude at best and blatantly transphobic at worst. nobody thinks you were being actively harmful when you said it but not being willing to change it is toxic.
you’re not the hero here.
“They” is plural, not singular.
It can be used to refer to single people, and using a plural instead of a singular is a very common way for many languages to show deference to the person you’re speaking to. Like in Finland. English already did that and did it so much it got rid of the second person singular, as “you” is a second person plural. This ofc meant there was nowhere for English to go vis-a-vis showing deference, so English really stresses titles. Narcissism of small differences, really.
Based on the votes I’ll have to disagree and say you don’t really know what others think.
So, to reiterate, you would rather that I start using archaic stereotypes to think about people and language? I have to condition myself into thinking of everyone as either a boy or a girl, and always make a mental note to gender someone as soon as I make contact with them? The first thing I do should be to gender them? That’s your takeaway?
Maybe try reading my comments again, with some thought. You’re not the hero here.
Also gendered language btw
So you’re saying you don’t believe women can be heroes?
That’s super sexist.
What is projection alex?
You defending some guy who’s wrong for…reasons?
How could they be wrong? They apologized and explained that it isn’t intentional and why. What exactly do you need to be happy here, seppuku?
They didn’t apologize, they doubled down with some of the most insipid bullshit about pronouns not existing in English and how they’re “depronouning english”, despite defaulting to using the masculine, instead of just saying “oh yeah, I didn’t see the name, I’ll edit my comment”.