00:00:00 - intro
00:00:39 - influencer culture is rotten
00:01:19 - my community post
00:03:20 - what is honey?
00:05:40 - Part 1: linus & honey, self-image perception vs. audience well being
00:06:41 - “would it have gone well for me?”
00:07:08 - it’s not about you
00:07:35 - your responsibility as an influencer
00:08:28 - thieves can’t be trusted
00:09:10 - browser extensions can monitor browser activity
00:09:36 - steve burke’s missing context
00:09:45 - reading Linus’ quote
00:10:28 - the part steve burke left out
00:11:05 - the “context” makes linus look worse
00:11:10 - Linus’ manipulation to escape accountability
00:12:00 - what pisses me off
00:12:45 - you took money for high visibility video, post retraction on the main channel
00:13:02 - so post it
00:13:35 - Accepting the premise of assholes: part 1
00:14:00 - responsibility to your audience is more important than your perception of your image
00:14:30 - our audience should make our own decisions
00:15:13 - linus’ manipulative nature
00:15:40 - louis loses it
00:16:02 - if linus cared about his audience, what he’d do
00:18:33 - why steve didn’t include the context
00:19:43 - accepting the premise of assholes: part 2
00:20:45 - real influencer vs. poser influencer
00:21:20 - how steve got gaslit by accepting the premise of assholes
00:22:05 - how steve allowed himself to change
00:22:43 - steve updated his website for right to reply
00:23:44 - ignore the tone police
00:24:17 - what right to reply means to linus
00:24:55 - none of you care about right to reply
00:25:03 - right to reply: exhibit 1
00:25:30 - right to reply: exhibit 2
00:26:23 - right to reply: exhibit 3
00:27:00 - what right to reply means to linus
00:27:22 - ranting about steve burke more
00:28:15 - how to properly handle that situation
00:30:17 - the iMac video - my personal experience with linus’ manipulation
00:30:40 - Linus’ skeevy email to me
00:31:24 - Linus’ broken iMac storyline
00:31:45 - i showed up while in canada
00:31:58 - i was honest about not needing travel money when offered since i was already there
00:32:39 - personality traits of a narcissist
00:33:05 - my email reply to linus I’m 99% certain either jessa or anna wrote after stealing my keyboard & deleting a page of curse words
00:33:30 - the cost ratio of the board to the video income makes this ridiculous
00:35:15 - imagine if I pulled this on steve burke
00:36:34 - imagine if I pulled this on paul daniels
00:36:41 - deference to the king, paul daniels
00:38:40 - Linus weaponized a joke 16 months later
00:39:29 - I am not a Linus Media Group shareholder
00:40:27 - businesses have loss leaders
00:40:55 - loss leaders are the responsibility of the business owner
00:42:10 - this is wrestling. it’s not real
00:43:05 - my back and forth
00:44:23 - I can’t behave like this to other content creators
00:45:03 - Linus trust me bro warranty thing
00:45:34 - A lost opportunity due to Linus’ narcissism
00:46:00 - warranties are being eroded every year
00:46:33 - business owners that know it’s not about them just make a warranty without throwing a fit
00:47:01 - linus made it about him
00:47:08 - linus monetized making fun of people who cared about consumer rights
00:47:14 - linus pits factions of his audience against each other, all to protect his fragile ego, at the expense of an opportunity to bring people together on consumer rights
00:47:50 - does linus run his business on trust me bro?
00:48:10 - does LMG trust you bro to have discussions on your pay with coworkers?
00:48:27 - does LMG trust you bro to not start their own youtube channels?
00:48:45 - The missed opportunity
00:50:08 - The right way to treat employees
00:50:30 - What my employees did for me
00:51:05 - Linus sends text message to the wrong phone
00:52:48 - Linus portrays steve as callous while sending msg to wrong phone
00:54:05 - we don’t want to be like you
00:54:47 - My question to Linus
00:55:26 - the problem w/ people like Louis & Linus
00:56:27 - Nobody checks us, at our level
00:57:12 - Addressing people with similar experience
00:59:18 - someone else has had your experience
00:59:40 - i realize i am privileged in not having anything to lose
01:00:00 - your products will continue to sell
01:01:48 - a greenie for clinton
I’m here to make my traditional “Rossman needs an editor” comment. Whenever one of his videos become popular.
He’s a trove of useful information but he also rants unhinged and is sometimes unintelligible on what point he is trying to make. Which hurts the effectiveness of his communications.
lived enough to become the villain
He was never a hero.
Interesting to hear that Linus is doing even more shady crap. The bit about sending the text message to a defunct phone that he knows was defunct is next level asshole behavior if true.
Worth noting that Steve from Gamers Nexus admitted that he reviewed this video before it went live, meaning that Rossmann and Steve were collaborating, so Rossmann cannot be seen as an objective third party.
Oh, and they’re also starting some sort of project together, I think it’ll be a podcast.
Not that it invalidates the point, but also creates an odd incentive here.
It wasn’t a secret he saw the video early. https://gamers.nexus/ethics-statements/contact-vs-no-contact
What lack of objectivity do you see? From what I saw for every factual claim he provided sources/receipts and the rest was his opinion.
I’m not saying LTT is perfect but I really don’t understand why they’re being made the bad guys over the whole Honey thing.
Honey are the scumbags, it was known what they were doing before LTT dropped them yet nobody gave a fuck until it exploded a few weeks ago and somehow LTT are to blame?
Honey might just be the straw. But Linus has a long list of controversies. And in every case, he never takes responsibility. It’s always somebody else, or miscommunication, etc.
Like a decade ago, they were promoting some fake science products on their channel. When was brought out to light that the products were fake, they never made a retraction. Instead they made videos about being the victims about being called out because the videos were promoting fake products. Ltt promoted hyperloop and Tellspec. I’m sure there’s more, but I can’t recall
I think the main issue is they figured out what Hobey was doing and they just silently dropped them and let them continue doing this shit to other people.
Sure but there was already news and videos about it back then. But nobody cared. Why was it in them when it was already public knowledge?
But that’s what I’m saying, they weren’t the first to figure it out, there was already a YouTube video up exposing it but nobody noticed it.
Well the issue is that they have a large platform and if they were ethical they would have shared and made sure people know about it.
So LTT should have borne the brunt of the lawsuits directed at them because “morality”?
They weren’t silent about it, they just didn’t make a video. There were posts on the forum about it
Precisely one of Louis’ points. LTT took the money to give Honey tons of exposure (aka millions of views) on their video channel and then they dropped them by making a forum post a few thousand may see. Those two things are pretty far from being the same.
Is it really their job to notify creators through a main channel video though? Especially for something that, to their knowledge at the time, had no impact on the consumer?
… I mean… It is though. Their whole channel is about technology, potential scams, and new inventions that could be helpful or hopeless.
It’s like, if Steve Irwin discovered a unicorn that eats toes, yeah I expect Steve Irwin to tell us. This is straight up his alley, he’s gonna teach us about animals, and if it’s a particularly terrifying one that I shouldn’t be near, all the more reason. This is quite literally how the man makes his money and the fact that he doesn’t wanna talk about it is really weird.
Did he instead discover a random cannibal living under a bridge that eats toes? Yeah I can see why he doesn’t make that an episode. It’s not really on topic, it’s for a very different crowd.
If they were the ones promoting a service/product that they found out was a scam then yes, absolutely.
It’s wasn’t a scam to the users. Just the content creators. He has no obligation to his competition to notify them their losing money?
Edit: I was wrong.
There actually is a case that the scam affected the users. One of the selling points of Honey’s partnership programs with sellers (not content creators, but actual store fronts) was that you could top out the maximum savings honey could “find” so you might have a 20% coupon but honey can promise to find only 15%.
That video was so repetitive… youtube drama, man.
I will never understand how anyone watches Linus. He’s always come across as dishonest to me.
He strikes me as someone who thinks “what’s good for the company” way ahead of “what’s good for the community” and because of that I have trouble trusting his integrity.
He’s a business guy in the derogatory sense. A money man who only gives a shit about clout and dosh. He’s also anti union. Which should say enough
Being focused on your business is not an issue on its own. The infuriating part is the way postures himself as defender of that community and social media tech space in general when his actions go against them time and time again. The duplicity is what makes him unserious and untrustworthy.
Yes, exactly.
I think a large portion of the population doesn’t believe is honesty or sincerity anymore. So long as they’re being entertained, it doesn’t matter what happens back stage.
I always feel greasy after watching him talk.
Linus will continue to show his ass until people are tired of looking at it.
