Donald Trump has said that Americans may feel economic “pain” from his tariffs on key trading partners.
“Will there be some pain? Yes, maybe (and maybe not!)” Trump wrote on Sunday in all capital letters on his Truth social media platform, a day after signing off on tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China.
“But we will Make America Great Again, and it will all be worth the price that must be paid,” he added.
“Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a more grudging way, have said to people ‘I offer you a good time,’ Hitler has said to them ‘I offer you struggle, danger and death,’ and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet.”
“Some of you may day, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make”
Even the Wall St Journal is calling him out as dumb.
I wonder how they’re going to blame Obama for gas prices going to this time.
Also these maga are seriously thinking gas is coming down with these tariffs because the US will drill it’s way out of it. Too dumb to realize that we’re already producing a record about oil, companies already started they aren’t going to massively develop expensive new wells, and the refineries in the north are set up to process Canadian crude oil and switching isn’t cheap or fast.
Americans are going to suffer and we deserve it.
He’ll just blame Biden.
And his base will eat it all up just like last time.
I need to buy a shitton of “I did that” stickers with his dumb orange face on em and plaster them all over gas pumps
Not for him I’m sure.
So guillotine it is.
Always was always will be
American made right? Best guillotines.
He basically just said, “let them eat brioche.”
← Petition to start calling Trump “Lord Farquaad” starts here.
President Musk needs to rein in VP Farquaad
I think we can just go with fuckwad at this point. No need to obscure any more.
I also wouldnt use Lord, maybe Gourd
“Gourd Fuckwad” works for me
I usually refer to him affectionately as fuck face.
Ouch
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Meanwhile, huge swaths of the poor stand up and cheer.
Amazingly, also many latinos voted for Trump. I wonder how they’re feeling these days.
Well remember, a lot of Latines are white or at least have passing complexion. They’re gonna be fine for now.
Until ICE hears them speaking Spanish. They don’t hire the brightest, I know several of them.
This freaking tariff thing is ridiculous. The President of the United States doesn’t know how to implement them and the general public doesn’t know why they’re used (both believe they do).
This entire country is full of morons because we value political identity and virtue signaling over knowledge and rational thought. The way we get information now is largely engineered by algorithms so you only know what already aligns with your existing ideologies. Everyone has a strong opinion about something they know very little about. This strengthens the walls that divide us because we’re arguing for “our side” rather than based on the vast complex realities of a subject. Most people should not be engaging in a conversation, let alone a political stance, about tariffs.
I’m certainly not an economist or trade expert so I won’t bother adding to the misinformation. However, this particular president seems to know far less about the economy and American history than do I. Moreover, the fact that he has point towards the import of illegal drugs as the reason for the tariffs is just bonkers.
Edit: Since I posted this, I’ve been more mindful of the tone and rhetoric with what I’m reading online. It’s apparent the left are being taken advantage of just as much as the right was years ago. While it seems there’s more responsible reporting from what is now, I guess, regarded as “the left” (apparently neutral reporting is left-leaning), everything else is misinformation and propaganda. And a lot of blatant lies. Engagement is all that matters, despite the truth. I can not say both sides are ‘the same’ but they are both living in misinformation bubbles and that’s not good.
The Dunning-Krugger Effect has been fully weaponized.
Many of those policy decisions being made really look like they either come from the premade Proj25 playbook, random whims, or spite attached to a flimsy excuse. It is pathetic.
If America survives, the president’s power has to be severely reduced.
Has he actually been clear about what the tradeoff is here and why it’s worth it?
No, but I can step into the breach: the tradeoff is that Putin doesn’t release the video of him fucking a 12-year old blonde girl whom he audibly refers to as “Ivanka”.
He said yesterday that the only way for Canada to get out of this is by becoming 51st state
Oh, so we’re going to be suffering for 4 years pointlessly
Might just suffer permanently since Trump is dismantling the US government, consolidating power and setting up a dictatorship.
Longer than that, most likely, since tariffs raise prices on the end consumer and once those tariffs eventually go away there’s no incentive to lower the price back to pre-tariff levels.
Trump using examples of effective US economic policy from over a century ago and trying to apply it to modern international trade is peak Trump.
Idk something about strengthening American economy making it more self reliant. Which is why he’s putting tariffs on all of the things we can’t sustainably produce here and are outsourced for a reason, y’know, so we can, uh…
He’s trying to incentivize domestic manufacturing by disincentivizing foreign imports.
The problem is he hasn’t promised any meaningful investment in domestic manufacturing except for a massive half a trillion dollar investment in AI.
For example, all shoes are made in foreign countries where labor costs are lower. The machinery to make shoes locally is scant if nonexistant. There were no investments made to offset this.
Nike and Adidas have said prices may go up by up to 100%. You have to inventivize these companies to make product locally otherwise they’re going to find the cheapest option which is either trafficking it through a non tariffed country or passing the cost on to the consumer. They have a duty to their shareholders (the great American ethos) after all.
Idiot is basically saying “Jesus take the wheel” expecting everything to sort itself out while the American people get fucked.
Has he ever been clear about anything?
Wanting to fuck his daughter.
Honestly, I feel like at this point he can be completely honest that he’s beholden to his fellow oligarchs, he just has to follow it up with “the democrats did the same thing, this is how we get even”. And his followers will defend him, and his opponents won’t have anything to call him out on, and we all lose.
In my opinion Trump went to North Korea, and Trump saw empty streets, empty bellies, quiet acquiescent workers that couldn’t travel or complain, and a autocratic leader that was richer than anyone else.
And in my opinion Trump wanted to make America in that image.
Words cannot adequately express my deep hatred and loathing for this man. I wish all the worst for him and anyone who supports him.
“Will there be some pain? Yes, maybe (and maybe not!)”
Small potatoes at this point but it’s amazing that this schtick still works. Really shows how gullible people are and how simple his act is relative to how well it works. This sentence means he doesn’t know shit about what these tariffs will cause. That’s what it means.
But to Trump supporters, if it causes pain he was right (he said it right there) and if doesn’t he was also right (he said it right there). Amazing . Truly the greatest con artist of all time, especially considering how low-effort his act is.
Establish UBI and it won’t hurt.
unfortunately the faux news/conservative propaganda machine will never allow those voters to understand the reality of their terrible, terrible decision to elect a con artist as president.
it doesnt matter how bad it gets, it will never be this piece of shit humans fault.
Those voters choose to remain inside their bubble of ignorance and actively avoid any information that might challenge their preconceived notions. Painting those people as victims is just wrong.
its definitely not as black and white as that. many of these viewers do not actually know they have a choice.
Fuck em. I hate to quote pigs, but at some point, ignorance of consequences should not save you from them. If you need to learn the hard way and will bring everyone else down to do so, I hope it’s fucking sharp.
People don’t know they can switch channels on their TV?
you honestly think that 100% of the people watching fox news regularly make the conscious decision to continue (or not) watching fox news?!
dude are you 12 and completely ignorant of the complex realities of human emotional, knowledge states, and information proxy selection?
most of these people did not logic themselves into being brainwashed, they certainly arent going to logic themselves out of it. many are just passively consuming whatever is on at the local bar or laundromat or radio. your dismissal of millions of people into such a small bucket belies your objectively ignorant point of view.
I mean sure, what you said is true, but you can’t deny that when given a choice they consistently choose comfort over doing the right thing. It’s the same reason people will say “I really should be vegan” and keep eating meat. While that’s the normal human thing to do, I can still call them out for doing the wrong thing because it’s easy. They also had many many opportunities to turn away from the propaganda when it started to become more insane, but they remained because it was comforting and change would be too difficult.
It is wilful ignorance these people are displaying and no amount of excuses will change that.
thanks for proving my point.
It isn’t just fox news.
Myself and a few others I know who still use(d) reddit were given 3 day bans (so AFTER the tariffs hit) for just talking about how a “general strike” wouldn’t be as effective as people think and the only way people would even notice were if it were rioting in the streets. Carefully worded so as to NOT be advocating for rioting.
People are finally starting to realize that musk and zuck are manipulating them. But they still don’t understand that reddit and tiktok are as well.
And, to be clear: There are a LOT of bad actors on lemmy too. But outside of the particularly tanky instances, it is more a function of not having any protections against meat puppets.
Trump will tell them to blame Canada and Mexico and China and whip them into a fury and then use that to declare war.
