• Mossy Feathers (They/Them)
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    Honestly, fuck diamonds in general. Normalize jewelry with unnatural laboratory gems. The old gems are boring, bring on the synthetic glowy gems.

    Edit: damn, you can get chunks of reject sapphire made for F35 fighter jet windows on their new store. They’ve got some pieces over 1kg.

    • Scrubbles
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      478 months ago

      My wedding ring was 30 dollars on Etsy. It has just as much meaning as a 10k diamond to me.

      • Designate
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        298 months ago

        Mine was literally a piece of stainless Steel my mate turned into a ring. Even made me spares, love them.

        • @[email protected]
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          98 months ago

          Stainless Steel is the alloy of miracles. Fuck the naturally occurring rock, I want the alloy millions would fight to the death over for most of human history.

      • Tigbitties
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        278 months ago

        I got my wife her dream ring with synthetic stones. Her idea.

      • Mossy Feathers (They/Them)
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        198 months ago

        They are so fucking cool. If I had the money, I’d have a room that’s just these gems+blacklights. There are some that change color based on the wavelength of UV light they’re exposed to. Some glow a different color under UV than they do under normal light. Some are both fluorescent and phosphorescent, meaning they light up in response to UV, but then they can maintain their glow temporarily. Some change color based on the angle you view them at. They’re so fucking cool.

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      108 months ago

      The mechanics of extracting diamonds is baffling. Hell, even gold. Cutoff grades (where it is no longer feasible to mine economically) for gold is about 2.5 grams per tonne of overburden… that’s a fucking metric shitpile of waste rock, some of which is ML/ARD (Metal leaching or acid generating).

      I find the whole thing fascinating, and mining can be done responsibly, but it is not an easy thing in general

    • @[email protected]
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      98 months ago

      Holy shit I need blacklight jewelry! I got lab alexandrite and lab moissanite for my wedding ring, but I didn’t know I could get SCIENCE gems! And I do a ton of confocal microscopy where we use dichroic for splitting the wavelengths! Thank you for this link, I’m def buying all my jewelry from here from now on!

    • Nate
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      1148 months ago

      Trust us we are. It’s not like we can afford them anyway

  • flicker
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    1078 months ago

    My nightmare of a previous boss called my moissanite engagement ring “cheap” and “trashy,” and treated us to a 30-minute speech about how if it’s not “real” diamond, it doesn’t count.

    I hope sucking down those Marlboro blacks takes care of that problem of a woman sooner, rather than later, and in the meantime the gorgeous rainbow sparkle of my pretty ring is made all the more beautiful for the complete lack of child slavery that went into making it!

    … I also just realized that horrible harridan didn’t have an engagement ring, or even a boyfriend, and now some things make sense.

    • @[email protected]
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      168 months ago

      We all have these people in our jobs, don’t we? I‘m practicing to engage them with a therapist rn. Have been through abuse when I was young and they love to dump on me. My new goal is to pin a notice on my wall that I get for telling the next bully where to stick it (in public). Lets see how that goes.

      • @[email protected]
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        108 months ago

        “I consider this harassment inappropriate for a workplace. I’d rather not get HR involved.”

        Key words from the employee manual or even better, HR training. No emotion, just stating facts. Don’t trust HR, but management knows that more than anyone. They use it as a bludgeon against employees all the time, they know it could be turned against them just as easily.

    • @[email protected]
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      68 months ago

      I would have just sat there quietly and when she finished answered her with “well, that’s your opinion”

      I don’t care if I depend on my job and my boss is a POS, my self worth is more valuable than any job.

      • @[email protected]
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        58 months ago

        I usually take a month off of work in the fall each year. One of my bucket list items is taking that time off to find a job with the worst bosses and seeing how far I can go while giving no fucks.

    • @[email protected]
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      68 months ago

      Moissanite is a perfect replacement of a diamond. Definitely agree that it looks great, better off putting the money towards something that will actually enhance your life.

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      38 months ago

      Average employer. I bet they only see diamonds as legitimate because of the slave labour put into them.

  • @[email protected]
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    898 months ago

    The diamond industry sucks don’t get me wrong. But the real culpurists are the dumbfuck diamond buyers.

    My friend is a diamond salesperson and told me a story about one of their customers. They were looking at different pieces and the customer kept asking about the purity of the diamonds in the piece. Whenever my friend said it’s “SI,” the customer would be visibly disappointed and would ask for “VS” or “VVS” which are purer. My friend then got annoyed a bit and told the customer that purity doesn’t matter once you reach “SI” since the impurities are not really visible by the naked eye. He even showed the customer 2 pieces with one looking 10 times better than the other but has SI diamonds and the non-pretty piece has VS diamonds. He asked the customer to tell him which is which and the customer wrongly said the SI one was more pure. Even after he revealed his ruse and showed that purity doesn’t matter much, the customer kept asking for more pure pieces as if nothing happened.

    These “people” literallly are willingly being lied to, and they like it. If a diamond buyer saw a piece, told you they love it, told you they would buy it, then you told them it’s a synthetic, they would be disgusted. It’s bullshit from all sides and they deserve eachother.

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      188 months ago

      I feel like the high-end buyer’s don’t care about how much they like their possessions, they care about how expensive their possessions sound when described to others. They couldn’t tell that the SI was less pure, but they knew they couldn’t describe it to their friends as the purest, so they didn’t care.

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        98 months ago

        Funny thing is that this comes from middle class people. There’s still VVS and flawless diamonds which are significantly more expensive. But they can’t afford one that looks any good. Given the choice they’d absolutely burn their money to buy those though.

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      138 months ago

      There’s a concept, ‘conspicuous consumption,’ that people will use products in such a way for their social power regardless of anything else. So getting higher quality diamonds, whatever imperceptible difference it has, is still worth it to be seen as affording the higher tier. One of the ways in which market economies poison the brain.

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      The people who don’t deserve this are the slavers who make gorillians off the abusive trade, plus the slaves who are forced to work the mines.

    • Helmic [he/him]
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      38 months ago

      If it’s wedding ring, the marketing has been about how the purity of the diamond is symbolic of the purity of one’s love. So picking an uglier, but purer, diamond then coild be about prioritizing love over beauty or whatever in that person’s head.

      So not necessarily exclusive to people wanting to present themselves as wealthy, that sort of emotional manipulation convinces broke people to blow their savings on a ring all the time.

  • @[email protected]
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    698 months ago

    Look up moissanite. It’s literally the cheaper, superior diamond. The fact that it exists just goes to show how inflated the diamond market is

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      268 months ago

      Saw a story about a wedding ring where instead of a diamond the ring was jeweled with the couple’s birth stones fit together into the shape of a heart, which honestly I think is WAY better and probably WAY cheaper too.

    • @[email protected]
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      138 months ago

      Moissanite is chemically different to diamond (SiC vs C), has a different crystal structure, and is less hard. You can also get actual lab-grown diamond, but they are quite expensive. But you probabaly won’t be able to tell the difference anyway.

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        Usually you can tell the difference. Lab grown diamond is pure while rock grown diamond is imperfect.

        But you have to look at it under a magnifying glass to tell, and know what you’re looking for.

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        158 months ago

        But also, who cares that it’s less hard? I’m not using it for a drill bit, it’s a cosmetic piece. Literally it’s only function is visual. And moissanite is superior. All the visual markers that are used for beauty in a diamond it surpasses. And some quick googling I did to confirm that also showed me that diamond is only barely harder (“With a hardness of 9.25, moissanite is the second-hardest material used a gemstone.” a diamond is a 10.) and it turns out, less likely to break in some cases. “Moissanite doesn’t have a cleavage plane, while diamond does. (This is an internal plane along which a diamond crystal can easily split)” So if you hit a diamond in the wrong spot, it can still crack. Moissanite does not have a weak spot.

        source

        • @[email protected]
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          58 months ago

          It’s very important to me that my gemstone only has carbon. If it has silicon I’m going to get very upset. Silicon interferes with your inner flow and can have harmful ions.

          • my crystal wearing, hippy Grandma.
      • @[email protected]
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        28 months ago

        Don’t hang around people who demand you consume in order to get their approval. They are empty people who will not support you.

      • @[email protected]
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        18 months ago

        Everything can be pointless when it comes down to it. I never ever wore jewelry but when I got married we got really nice matching plain bands and now I never take it off and quite like how it looks, it’s not pointless to me.

  • @[email protected]
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    658 months ago

    If your significant other would be upset with a brass ring for an engagement ring, I don’t pity the misery that will be both of your lives.

      • @[email protected]
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        318 months ago

        Yeah brass wouldn’t work as brass polishing sucks. I’ve had to spend hours every year polishing the brass pots at my grandparents place. Never again.

          • @[email protected]
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            28 months ago

            Yeah it’s (as far as I know) just aesthetic since the pots were decorative from the 1800s. I don’t think anyone cares about the aesthetics of like brass pipe fittings but for something decorative (like the pots and a wedding ring) the aesthetics matter.

    • Drusas
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      98 months ago

      I like brass for jewelry, but it gets green and grimey.

  • @[email protected]
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    498 months ago

    Opals are the superior stone and they actually look awsome. Transparent glass like stones are so boring. They are also much cheaper and not harvested with child labor.

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          168 months ago

          Rings, like engagement/wedding rings, can take quite a beating. You need a hard stone or it won’t really last very long.

          I have a lab Ruby in my engagement ring and then lab diamonds around it. The lab Ruby is a good alternative because it’s a hard stone! Sapphires and alexandrite are also just as hard and could be good stones in a ring you’d wear everyday.

          • @[email protected]
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            88 months ago

            This is what we did. I got my wife a nice ice blue sapphire center stone instead of a diamond. It was less expensive, durable and more unique.

        • Xanthrax
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          88 months ago

          It’s more dropping or getting scratched, but I’ll admit I’ve never seen opal break.

        • shuzuko
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          88 months ago

          Hardness absolutely matters in rings. Not as much in pendants or earrings, but people don’t realize how rough they are with their hands. Most people do not take their rings off to wash their hands, or do their laundry, or, or, or. So many things have unexpected abrasives that may just feel a little rough on your skin, but can significantly damage a soft stone like opal. In a rush and accidentally bang your hand against the door frame? Chipped opal. Back of your hand itches, so you rub it against your jeans briefly? Scratched opal. They’re very fragile stones.

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      68 months ago

      My wife’s is made of a purple sapphire as the main stone with a small diamond on each side. She loves the purple. The diamonds I didn’t pay for, they were her grandmother’s that I got from her sister.

  • @[email protected]
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    448 months ago

    The Kimberley certification process for diamonds has been entirely co-opted and no longer serves the purpose of ensuring you are not buying blood diamonds. All the NGOs that matter have already walked away considering it a lost cause.

    If you buy natural diamonds, there is a good chance you are supporting criminal enterprise and warlords.

    • @[email protected]
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      318 months ago

      You’re getting ripped off, too. The price is artificially inflated, because it’s controlled by a cartel.

  • Izzy
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    448 months ago

    Technically man-made diamonds are also the diamond industry.

  • @[email protected]
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    288 months ago

    I got my wife a moissanite ring. Looks great and just about as strong as diamond. It is time to use advertisements as guide what not to buy.

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          08 months ago

          My life is actually easier long term. I’ve never been attracted to white women. My mom is an affluent white Karen, my sister is on her way to being the same. My dad and sisters SO are constantly fighting, mostly to get them to shut up for 5 mins.

          My wife is cold, blunt and super hot. She looks just as good at 40 as she did at 20. Leaves me alone to do my own thing, when we found out I was shooting blanks it wasn’t a huge deal, she was upset we wouldn’t have a kid but she stuck with me anyway. I’ve gotten used to the way she is and will play damage control when she has to deal with other white people. I am a glorified man servant to her whims sometimes.

          But at the end of the day I’m happy. Which is more than I can say for my closest friends who have been through multiple divorces

      • Karyoplasma
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        18 months ago

        My cousin’s ex-wife is Chinese. She left him because their son of 2 has chronic asthma and that interferes with her career.

        Chinese girls, man…

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          18 months ago

          Ahh I know the type, mine isn’t that bad but maybe had she went into a different field she might’ve ended up that way. The men in her family are that way though. One’s a cardiologist, didn’t have kids on purpose. Married a woman with an older kid, doesn’t really parent just throws money at the kid.

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          Oh no she’s a science teacher and is obsessed with the hardness of diamonds. I bought her a synthetic which she wasn’t pleased with but I’ve had words about I feel about DeBeers and diamonds in general. Love won out, or begrudgingly won out in the end.

  • Destide
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    268 months ago

    we can achive what the earth can in a matter of months or we can chuck kids in a pit …humanity chose

    • gullible
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      118 months ago

      Wait, wait, go back a second. Are the child death pits still an option? Can we retroactively volunteer ourselves?

  • windowlicker [she/her]
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    218 months ago

    has anyone else been getting tons of ads (on streaming services mostly) literally about this? i keep getting these ads about how you should only purchase natural diamonds because only they matter or something and put some pretty woman in the ad to convince you. it’s pretty disgusting to make a commercial promoting diamonds stolen from the global south and brushing off synthetic diamonds even if they are literally the exact same rock.