An exploding population of hard-to-eradicate “super pigs” in Canada is threatening to spill south of the border, and northern states like Minnesota, North Dakota and Montana are taking steps to stop the invasion.

In Canada, the wild pigs roaming Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba pose a new threat. They are often crossbreeds that combine the survival skills of wild Eurasian boars with the size and high fertility of domestic swine to create a “super pig” that’s spreading out of control.

Ryan Brook, a professor at the University of Saskatchewan and one of Canada’s leading authorities on the problem, calls feral swine, “the most invasive animal on the planet” and “an ecological train wreck.”

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    At least they sound like a viable game animal. Invasive species to you, 100lbs of free pork for Billy out in the woods. We use it to control deer populations from exploding in certain areas where we’ve removed the top predator though, and we just kinda take its place. Can potentially help with any animal that has the misfortune of being both tasty and economical to go out and hunt for.

    Won’t eradicate them or anything, but will help keep them in check. It’s a facet of that old alliance between hunters/fishermen and environmental activists.

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      Unfortunately they’ll still see population growth…

      That means 65% or more of a wild pig population could be killed every year and it will still increase, Brook said. Hunting just makes the problem worse, he said. The success rate for hunters is only about 2% to 3% and several states have banned hunting because it makes the pigs more wary and nocturnal — tougher to track down and eradicate.

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        They are clever animals. You have to play the long con if you want to deal with their populations. Ive seen things where they actually feed them and gradually pen them in and the liquidate the whole drove.

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          My family in GA does a lot of this. They are farmers & have been successful in keeping feral hogs out of their fields. Hunting & trapping absolutely does work, you just have to know what the hell you’re doing.

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          A hunter does not need to make 33 to 50 trips to get one kill (a 2% - 3% success rate). Clearly the definition of success here is whack.

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          One would assume success means killing an animal when you go out on the hunt. 2-3% seems ludicrously low though, i grew up hunting in southern Illinois to feed our family and the success rate for deer was easily ten times that number on a bad year

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            I think it means that when they go out and shoot a pig or two, that’s only 2-3% of the herd

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              Gotcha, but if 10 hunters in the herds area do that for a week straight, no more herd as intended right? Or just say open season on the invasive wild hogs and the hunters will go kill enough to fill their deep freezes and will go do it again as soon as stock starts running out

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                I think I could only fit a single hog in my freezer.

                The real way to fast track the extermination would be to allow the hunters to sell the meat, or some other incentive to destory entire herds

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              Time to allow hunters to bring in M60 machine guns.

              Ironically they are nicknamed “the pig”.

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            The issue with vermin animals that have free range licenses is that you get a lot of people that have no idea what they’re doing, usually teenagers, out there that teach the animals to avoid humans.

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        I shoulda opened the article instead of just reading the synopsis. That is concerning.

        I’ll point out though, that since it’s a new prey animal to the area, it will take time for the locals to learn how to hunt it effectively. It’s behavior needs to be learned first, so effective approaches can be devised.

        But … delicious, economical and challenging is also something a hunter might find interesting.

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        All the more bacon! And something useful to do for all those trigger-happy Americans.

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        People have been setting up cages with bait and trapping them by the dozens.

        You’re blowing this way out of proportion.

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    Just declare open season and no bag limit on pigs in all northern states. I guarantee you all the Bubbas and outdoorsmen will take care of it.

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      They’re not able to keep up with the breeding in Texas, and there’s even helicopter tours where you can try and wipe out whole herds at a time.

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        I have seen this in Louisiana, too. They will use helicopters(I even saw one mounted with a light machine gun) and gun down hundreds at a time. It still isn’t enough, and they have a lot of Bubbas down there hunting them in one way or another.

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        Right, under Canadian gun laws, so they’re plinking them with bolt action .308s

        Wait til SuperPork wanders into AR country…

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          Actually, some states ban hunting with AR-15’s because the round isn’t deadly enough for a clean kill.

          My smart-assed comparison:

          https://imgur.com/a/kolUESz

          But to be fair, if you want to engage multiple targets, the AR is far more controllable.

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      In many states it is, not just northern. Iirc Texas will pay you to take an AR into a field and take out as many as you can. People even organize hunts from helicopters hunting herds like they should have Fortunate Son playing (no full auto though just ARs and typically BYOAR and ammo iirc.)

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                  Well you’d need an AR-10 lower, upper, BCG, dust cover, barrel, barrel nut, handguard, bolt catch, gas block, buffer weight, lpk, mag catch (unless DPMS AR-10, they fit the AR-15 mag catch), and muzzle device, making it an AR-10.

                  The triggers, hammers, stocks, grips, tubes, mag rel buttons, and safties are interchangable though, yes.

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          Not in the US, unless you have proof I haven’t seen. They literally don’t need to, as per the article they already breed faster in the wild than we can kill them, seems like a waste of money to breed them when you can just use the wild ones that are already there.

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            They are bred with domestic pigs so they have less survival instinct and the clients can find them (i.e. they don’t avoid blinds and feeders). One-off clients would give your ranch bad reviews if they didn’t see anything all weekend. Meanwhile regular hunters understand truly wild animals can elude you for days. If a visiting group has come up dry all weekend they might even release a sacrificial domestic pig (just out of sight) that will then walk right towards the clients, innocently arranging it’s own death. Source: am Texan who hunted pigs.

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                “just out of sight” was an exaggeration. They could be on the other end of the property to release a pig and its going to head towards the feed and the people… Just like a hungry dog would. Also, blinds usually face a single direction.

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            I am just shocked. The South is pretty freaken good at authentic BBQ and they have a wild boar problem. Can’t you guys just like eat them all?

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              I mean it isn’t like none get eaten, just not all of them. It isn’t just regular hunting, it’s basically an Emu War but instead of the Aus military it’s militias of angry farmers tired of hogs tearing up their crops.

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              They reach maturity fast, are basically always fertile, short gestational periods, and have large litters. It’s like trying to eradicate mice/rats by shooting them.

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    “Super pigs” — called the “most invasive animal on the planet”

    Human: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power

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        REEEEE! Absholuutely, what thish guy RRRREEEEEEE shaid… Tashtes like sssshhiiit…

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      I’ve seen a little video on them. Apparently their meat is not good for consumption and tastes horrible due to their diet. But I’ve never tried super pig before, so right now it’s only speculation.

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        Apparently their meat is not good for consumption and tastes horrible due to their diet

        I wonder how much selection pressure humans are applying in favour of this trait, since it’s the ultimate defence against human predation . One of the best defences that Canada geese have is that they taste terrible too.

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        If they are anything like the wild boars in Texas they are incredibly gamey, which some people don’t mind and others can’t stand. I’m sure that there is a way to prepare them that makes them more palletable

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    I love problems we can eat our way out of… if we almost wiped out the buffalo these little shits shouldn’t be an issue.

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      A problem I’ve heard with them is that they’re super smart. You trap one boar in a bear trap or something and that’s the only boar you’re catching from that region with that same type of trap.

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        100 %. Well, probably it’ll become sort of a frozen conflict and a steady income for the ammunition industry, sort of a lose (US) — lose (boars) — win (ammunition industry) situation.

        The only enemy boars have to fear is influenza.

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    I know this is bad, but I also know I’m not the only one whose first thought was, “super bacon”.

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      The pigs are mainly around agricultural areas. We’re on the bare edge of the Canadian prairie (10km from the edge of forest that extends 2500km to the west and however far to the tundra) and we rarely see wolves even here. They aren’t really a predator for the Russian boar that are now endemic in our area.

      Between the 3 of us here on the farm, we’ve probably shot (and eaten because they’re delicious) about 200 of them over the last 5 or 6 years. And we’ve knocked them back a bit on our own land, but they just breed over on other people’s farms and give ours a wide berth now.

      Biggest one we shot was over 500lbs

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          It had tusks on it the length of my hand, and I don’t have small hands. Wish I could find the pics, had to get a tractor over to even move it.

          Shot a few more in the 200-400 range but most of them have been sub-100lbs, lots of piglets. What I’ve found is that mom will often push the young out of the bush ahead of her (or the group of mature sows) and wait 15-20 minutes before sticking her nose out. If you wait and pop mom, you can clean up the young as they mill around her.

          Sounds cruel, and I get no enjoyment out of killing things (and even less out of having to gut and butcher), but between keeping them in check and putting meat in the freezer of everyone around here, it’s been a success. Being Russian boar, it’s not like the cold here was going to get them, despite hitting -40 most winters.

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            I don’t consider it cruel as long as the meat is used (except for the young ofc).

            But it sounds like you know enough to teach others how to do it right.

            One question … do you have abattoirs or butchers in your area where you take deer/elk/moose for butchering, cause they’d be a big help.

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              It wouldn’t be worth the cost for deer, but there are butchers that will do elk/moose at about $1/lb hung weight. I’ve only ever done them myself, between my own tags and helping friends/family, I might skin and cut up 20 deer in November, usually with a couple moose and/or elk thrown in. Most of it just gets put into grind, the backstraps and a few roasts for jerky might be taken out, though elk and moose give nice steaks and roasts as well.

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                Most of the people I know do the same, except all of the deer goes to jerky and sausage … cause the deer eat too much pine and spruce. lol

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            What I’ve found is that mom will often push the young out of the bush ahead of her (or the group of mature sows) and wait 15-20 minutes before sticking her nose out.

            Sacrificial piglet.

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      Imagine thinking about a working natural ecosystem (co)existing in the same era as humans, preposterous.

      :'(

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      If it’s similar to the boars we have in some areas here, the wolves better bring the whole gang and protective equipment :/