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  • DuskyRo@lemmy.world
    241·
    11 months ago

    For everyone still using Simple Tools apps, switch to Fossify it’s a fork that has all that crap removed

      • itsmect@monero.town
        15·
        11 months ago

        Droidify is the best! Best performance and UI of all compatible clients, and even handles 3rd repos that wont load on others.

      • Malle_Yeno@pawb.social
        7·
        11 months ago

        Hey thanks for this! I used f droid for a while but was always meh on the UI and how clunky it is. I used this for a bit and I already like it waaaay more. Cheers!

        • sab@kbin.social
          4·
          11 months ago

          I have used it for maybe a year and I never had any problems. Then again, I’m hardly a power user, so it makes sense that other people might have different experiences. :)

          • Pantherina@feddit.de
            5·
            11 months ago

            I really like that they add more repos you just need to enable. Number 1 reason to use it, as F-Droid will never add those for obvious reasons.

            Some that I cant live without

            • Izzyondroid
            • Guardian Project
            • Collabora office
            • signal foss twinhelix
            • molly
            • futo
            • simplex chat
            • Cryptomator
            • Mobilsicher (proprietary German apps that are core infrastructure. They ask those developers if they can get the APKs)
            • (Bitwarden) (dont use it)
            • Julians Repo: nice to get GrapheneOS app updates, but you should install their appstore instead.
              • Pantherina@feddit.de
                1·
                11 months ago

                Tried it, it was at least back then not scaleable. Not every Dev publishes precompiled APKs, that is actually not something regular because F-Droid and IzzyOnDroid exist.

                So in the end I had 8 or more of my favourite Apps still F-Droid only, and when adding all those sources some barely worked and in the end Obtainium didnt load anymore.

                Does it autoremove APK files? Otherwise its just a fancy Feed Reader, I use Feeder for the few Apps that are Git* releases only

    • Jeknilah@monero.town
      5·
      11 months ago

      Yeah. I usually go to the Playstore to buy out all the In-App purchases and support development, but this is really discouraging.

      • Pantherina@feddit.de
        9·
        11 months ago

        True. But F-Droid has Donation links everywhere. I prefer that over buying, idk why.

        Oh, found out at least F-Droid Basic doesnt display the links! Thats not nice it has

        • Salix@sh.itjust.works
          8·
          11 months ago

          Less fees taken if you donate instead of buying most likely.

          Droidify shows the donation links fine, which is nice!

      • Pantherina@feddit.de
        4·
        11 months ago

        F-Droid basic uses modern Android Libraries and modern Apps can be updated without interaction.

        Thats because Android has a Package manager that uses APKSigner signatures to verify the app. That is Private/Public Key authentication, so its pretty sure the App comes from the developers.

        Only if the Signature matches the App gets an Update. So there is no danger in using automatic updates.

        Making F-Droid Basic “battery unrestricted” will help.

          • Pantherina@feddit.de
            2·
            11 months ago

            Yes I hate the name. It makes no sense. I will do another post on multiple Platforms to advertise it.

            Yes the unattended upgrades only work on a modern store and modern apps. The original client is extremely outdated.

    • tom42@beehaw.org
      1·
      11 months ago

      I agree that F-Droid is great!

      What I usually do is to buy the pro version on Google Play and install it later on F-Droid.

      On the other hand I don’t see anything wrong for non tech people to install FOSS apps from the Play Store. The apps are still FOSS

      • Illecors@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        5·
        11 months ago

        Not exactly. When building for play store release - google injects their tracking into the binary.

        • Pantherina@feddit.de
          2·
          11 months ago

          I think this is a myth. Android Studio or something allows to build it in, but Google doesnt automatically do that. Afaik

  • DeadNinja@lemmy.world
    144·
    11 months ago

    They were sold to ZippoApps, who specializes in adding crapware to apps.

    What else would we expect anyway…

      • dubyakay@lemmy.ca
        696·
        11 months ago

        No. No it doesn’t. Israel might be a shitty country built on apartheid and illegal settlements, and netanyahoo might be genociding Gaza via IDF, but that doesn’t mean every individual should be regarded with a blanket statement.

        But fuck ZippoApps anyway.

      • GreyBeard@lemmy.one
        24·
        11 months ago

        If we judged citizens based on what their government does, I don’t think many of us would come out clean. As an American, I don’t want the whole world thinking that I agree with what the Feds are up to all the time. I recommend extending that same courtesy to people in countries who’s government you don’t like as well.

    • sab@kbin.social
      281·
      11 months ago

      There are a bunch of those “simple” apps on F-droid, such as Simple Contacts, Simple Calendar, and Simple Camera. I cannot find Simple Gallery in F-droid any more, it seems to have been replaced by its Fossify equivalent already.

      In light of this, it could be an idea to check if you have any of those apps installed and consider replacing them with an alternative. I was using Simple Contacts until now (only listed as “Contacts” in my apps), so I guess it’s time to make some changes.

      • jherazob@beehaw.orgEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        Simple Gallery got removed when people found it had non-FOSS Google libraries linked in while checking the Fossify rebrand/rework, just export your preferences and import them on Fossify Gallery (BE AWARE: There’s a bug in some launchers when an app uses custom icons like Simple Gallery and Fossify do, which breaks them, you’ll notice it if you import the preferences and you can no longer launch the app and have to uninstall/reinstall it to be able to even launch it again, in that case edit the exported Simple Gallery preferences and remove the icon line)

      • spizzat2@lemm.ee
        1·
        11 months ago

        I have several of the apps installed. I went through and checked the permissions, and they’re still pretty sparse. The play store didn’t mention anything about updates, but a few of them, like Notes, seemed to be disabled.

        Am I just a version behind or something?

        • sab@kbin.social
          5·
          11 months ago

          If they’re from F-Droid you’re good; if you’re on Google Play I doubt they’ll update anything to get more permissions without your consent.

          However, if the developer has taken a turn for the worse (which this post seems to indicate), you might not receive any more updates for your F-Droid software, and you might get to a point where you don’t want to install updates from Google Play. Software that cannot be updated is generally not a good thing.

          Furthermore, these apps deal with somewhat sensitive information by default, and I wouldn’t want to use apps developed by a company I don’t trust if I don’t absolutely have to. :)

    • Possibly linuxEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      I wonder what will happen to the F-droid version. I can’t imagine F-droid accepting an app with ads and proprietary software into the store so I assume the F-droid version will just get abandoned.

  • antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    89·
    11 months ago

    Damn, how did I even manage to miss that Simple apps have been bought off? I’ve used them for years and am still subscribed to the reddit community…

    Some people suggest the action could possibly be deemed illegal, by breaking the licence the project was made under.

    https://github.com/SimpleMobileTools/General-Discussion/issues/241#issuecomment-1837452672 - the dev’s explanation, and replies which discuss the legal issues

    https://old.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/1893j2p/simple_mobile_tools_is_about_to_be_acquired/

    • Pantherina@feddit.de
      461·
      11 months ago

      Fossify has many of them, Gallery, Files and Calendar (the main ones) are already on F-Droid!

      • sms: deku sms, way better
      • phone: GrapheneOSses AOSP dialer, dont know if you get that seperately, or Welefon
      • music: so many alternatives, Vanilla Music is nice
      • keyboard: florisboard, openboard
      • phone: lol Pixel with GrapheneOS

      Its sad that the community did not donate enough. People dont care…

      • Salix@sh.itjust.works
        6·
        11 months ago

        deku sms

        I haven’t used this, but it seems to do way more than the average person know how to use for an SMS app

        Even in the readme, it says:

        The technical functionalities of the app are currently not user friendly, which would be updated with the help of PRs and issues. The reason for the lack of user friendliness is solely based on the app aiming to be as customizable as possible. Users should be able to configure the app to their custom cloud servers without being tied into using specific providers.

          • NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml
            1·
            10 months ago

            more or less yes, but im not too familiar with the project. I was just looking for a FOSS keyboard with completion support. I know it has good support for plugins to use latin characters to write characters in other writing systems, like pinyín

    • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zoneEnglish
      21·
      11 months ago

      Provided that the developer can either remove contributed code or seek copyright licences from every contributor it can be done. Whether this did happen or not is unclear, the developer appears a little arrogant about having written the majority of the code, showing little appreciation towards minor contributors. We cannot tell whether the contributors gave permission for their code to be re-licenced or if their code was removed.

      Personally, when contributing to GPL projects I would expect that this kind of thing wouldn’t be possible. Using the GPL is a very philosophical choice of licence and is a move to say that you really care about your users

    • eluvatar@programming.dev
      35·
      11 months ago

      I mean it makes sense for error reporting. Lots of apps automatically report errors so that they can be detected easily, which would require internet access.

      • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        5·
        11 months ago

        that kinda makes me think google should to a log retrieval and storage api which can retrieve and send logs to developers.

        • redline23@lemmy.world
          2·
          11 months ago

          That just allows Google full access to all logs from any application you have installed.

          That service is not free either per month and those costs will be passed to the consumer in either a subscription or worse software.

          • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            11·
            11 months ago

            i mean google would have it anyway; and the app developer would be collecting the logs any way so the cost would be there already. this would just make it so they wouldn’t need to request full network access; just enough to get the logs.

  • Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml
    581·
    11 months ago

    I’m really curious about the amount of money exchanged. It must have been an enormous amount in order to do a “I’d even sell my mom for that” and don’t feel dirty

    • jackpot@lemmy.ml
      15·
      11 months ago

      the developer, and this isnt exaggeration, does not understand gpl v3. he literally got confused when people told him he had no right to sell contributed code. you can see for yourself in the github discussions

      • barryamelton@lemmy.ml
        6·
        11 months ago

        You can sell GPL code. Even if you aren’t the author. What you must do is share the code with those customers though.

        • jackpot@lemmy.ml
          82·
          11 months ago

          you cant sell othwrs ans then close source which is what they did to my knowledge

          • barryamelton@lemmy.ml
            1·
            10 months ago

            You perfectly can sell GPL code. And you can double-license yourself (provided that you are the copyright holder) as GPL and a privative license. A lot of companies do that, legally and correctly.

          • boyi@lemmy.sdf.org
            1·
            11 months ago

            Open source can be sold/commercialised. I think you’re confusing between FOSS and open source.

    • Cheradenine@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      15·
      11 months ago

      That was amazing. Someone linked to alibaba where you could buy the same 4? Year old phone for something like $120USD. Someone else dredged up a weird eastern European connection for the ‘FOSS’ OS. And they promised support, which ended when you bought the pos.

  • Mnglw@beehaw.org
    48·
    11 months ago

    It has begun

    (ps install the fork versions of the simple mobile tools suite, its called fossify)

  • jackpot@lemmy.ml
    33·
    11 months ago

    i hope these zippo fucks get sued by everyone who contributed. bastards are doing dropshipping but with malware pretty much

  • Mereo@lemmy.ca
    29·
    11 months ago

    sigh. Most people will just accept the new default permissions without blinking an eye. They’re taking advantage of people’s ignorance.