• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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    9 months ago

    If you’re watching me eat a sandwich while you’re in the middle of your mid-morning-park-orgy, are you really all that dedicated to the orgy?

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          9 months ago

          I mean you could close your eyes, or like. eat it at your house. If your kink is eating a sandwich in this particular theoretical park without having to watch an orgy at precisely the time at which the orgy is regularly scheduled to happen, I think you might actually just have a kink for eating a sandwich in the park while the orgy is happening, but you’re in denial. Or, maybe you have a kink for eating a sandwich in the park while the orgy is happening, but also denying that you enjoy it to any passersby, and the denial is also part of the kink.

          Truly, your sandwich eating social denial kink is something that the orgy goers could only look onward at, in envy, in awe, as they cum all over the tits of some woman, engaging in their passe sexual pleasures and delinquencies. Surely, you should get enough gratification in knowing that you alone stand at the top of this sandwich eating social denial kink mountain, surely this should be enough for you?

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            9 months ago

            I think maybe my point was that not everything humans do should be acceptable to do in public because most people don’t really want to watch it. I’m not sure why that is so controversial a position to some people. I really don’t think it’s kink shaming to say that most people don’t want to watch anyone have sex in front of them in a public place. Would it be kink shaming to say that I don’t want to watch someone take a shit on someone else’s chest right in front of me because their specific kink is ‘take a shit on someone’s chest right in front of Flying Squid?’

            I think there is a difference between ‘that is wrong, don’t do it’ and ‘I don’t want to see you doing it and pretty much no one else does either.’

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              9 months ago

              I think that your position is legitimate, but I also think it should be interrogated? Why don’t you want to watch me take a shit on someone else’s chest? C’mon, it’d be fun, lemme try it, just watch and see.

              No, but really, but actually, for realsies, is it just a kind of basic disgust at work, there? Because that might be fine, right, but disgust is also responsible for some pretty bad human behaviors, human -isms in the world. Appeals to popularity, appeals to public sentiment, also don’t help me, there, they don’t help me to dispel the -isms. If you can hit me with a reason why you hate the orgies in the park, beyond just “I don’t really want to look at them”, then I’d be willing to accept that, but “I don’t want to look at them” isn’t really good enough.

              Freebie answer: “I have sexual trauma and it triggers me to look at them”, right?

              At the same time, all of what I said previously still holds true. Orgy could be regularly scheduled, you could be notified ahead of time, there could be some sort of equitable agreement reached here, possibly. Maybe they just hold the orgy in a different park, I dunno. Maybe they post up “this is the orgy park” signs everywhere in pretty bold lettering before you enter the park, so you clearly know when the orgy is. If it’s bothering you, like, on a deep intrinsic level, to know that anyone, anywhere, is having sex in any public place, any public park, I’d expect you to be mad about, like, I dunno, porn screenings, or theatrical performance art that uses sex, or stuff like that, as well. Or maybe even people just having sex in private, I dunno. And I’d also expect that to be, you know, a you problem.

              It’s disgusting to watch someone drink a cup of their own collected spit, right, nobody wants to see that. But why not? Can’t I just eat spiders in public, as a treat? I need to get my macros in, damnit! Why can’t I shit on the sidewalk? There’s not a bathroom that they’ll let me use in like five city blocks, and I have IBS from rampant drug abuse as a result of my crippling poverty and homelessness! Truly, the earth is hell upon which I walk. Pity me, the man who can’t piss on the grave of margaret thatcher without getting arrested for public indecency.

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                9 months ago

                It’s not that I don’t want to look at them, it’s that I guarantee you that most people wouldn’t want to watch people having sex in public.

                Shouldn’t a general consensus on such things matter?

                Also, are you really complaining about not being able to take a shit on the sidewalk? Can you really not think of any reasons apart from people not wanting to see it why that might not be a good thing? You know, like not creating biohazards?

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                  9 months ago

                  I mean, if I can take a shit on a sidewalk, and still use a doggy bag to pick it up afterwards and throw it out, what’s the holdup, here?

                  I don’t necessarily think that public sentiment shouldn’t be held to account here, but I also think, yeah maybe it just doesn’t matter, the general public, if you aggregated it all, holds some kind of stupid and unjustified opinions about things, I’m sure.

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                    9 months ago

                    Throughout human history, the general consensus of the public is what determined what is and is not acceptable in the public square. Why should it be any different now?