• 474D@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    They’re gonna build a firewall, and the US is gonna pay for it!

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      Imo it’s more sad than hilarious. US users and Chinese users meeting each other on the platform and discovering they are interesting people who actually have a lot in common sounds like what I’d wish the internet to be.
      It’s not surprising, and I get the irony, but I feel more sad than amused.

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      This was the turn of events anyone who knows anything about China and the CCP (and how closely they control businesses there) would have expected.

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      I knew it was coming since that article yesterday about us Americans posting vids of 3D printed guns lmao

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    It amazes me how people apparently can’t live without watching shitty videos all the time… Oh, well.

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      I find takes like this unfortunate. I learned SO much on TikTok. Accounts like gatenerd, jerrythink, kellyscleankitchen, softpourn, publicopinion, hankgreen, alexisanddean, thelawsayswhat, kylascan, and countless interior designers, architects, chefs, and all the others I can’t recall.

      There is no other platform like TikTok where you can get drawn in not just in minutes watched, but in knowledge gained. Wish you shared my experience.

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        I can understand your point until you get to the “there is no other platform like TikTok”. You lose me there.

        Hopefully this little outage scare helps you to diversify!

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      I feel exactly the same way. It’s like they can’t imagine a world without it. When it’s banned they’ll have to fill their time just staring at the wall.

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    RedNote’s Chinese name, Xiaohongshu, literally translates to “Little Red Book,” which seems like a direct reference to a book of quotes from Chinese communist leader Mao Tse-tung. But The Washington Post reported that the app is designed to be apolitical and its co-founder, Mao, maintains that the name instead pays “homage to the colors of his college,” Stanford Business School, and his former employer, Bain Capital.

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeetthefuckouttahere!

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      You wouldn’t expect anyone named Mao to be political, so that checks out. His brothers Lenin and Stalin are equally apolitical.

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    I tried to challenge some ideas in World News and I guess asking questions about Chinese censorship is xenophobic. Now I’m banned for not being pro Chinese censorship.

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        Just asking questions instead of excusing it all under the guise of propaganda. I have no doubt some of it is, but all of it?

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      .ml

      There’s your problem. If they stated their rules, rather than forcing people to figure them out by trial and error, I’d have less of an issue with it. Like, lemmygrad is explicit in its intent and they state it outright in their rules. Lemmy.ml plays it too coy, and so comes off as incredibly manipulative.

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      Oh gosh, I thought you meant .world World News for a minute there. Yeah the problem is .ml, they’re tankies.

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        Those are other users’ comments. Not sure how those are relevant to JiveTurkey’s comments.

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        Those sound like comments on a different topic, specifically the story about Paris’ improvements in air quality lately (because they built bike infrastructure and partially banned cars). I had to remove nearly identical comments in the [email protected] thread on it, for the same reason.

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          I wouldn’t take it seriously, they gave me a month long instance ban for saying a federal representative democracy is by definition a type of democracy.

          “American propaganda” or something.

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                  God, shut up nerd, like your red fascist bullshit and their one party elections were or are better. Do you want to hear that it’s a flawed system? It is. All states are and should be abolished.

                  Still a type of democracy, and still more democratic than anything Russia or China have ever managed.

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                  Uhhh yeah. The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government. That is, we have an indivisible union of 50 sovereign States. It is a democracy because people govern themselves. It is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot.

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    A wee quote from the author of the original little red book …:
    “the two slogans – let a hundred flowers blossom and let a hundred schools of thought contend – have no class character; the proletariat can turn them to account, and so can the bourgeoisie or others. Different classes, strata and social groups each have their own views on what are fragrant flowers and what are poisonous weeds”.

    Seemed a good idea at the time, remember how that trick evolved thereafter …?

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        Oh come off it mate. It’s not hard to see where the US has lead the charge in topics such as LGBT+ rights or racial equality, and it wasn’t from Asia or Europe let me tell you that much.

        They may have a shit ton of flaws, and have a large part actively trying to undo all their work, but they have still done so much positive.

        Look at the timeline for marriage equality for instance, they were right up there with the first wave leading the global surge. That doesn’t happen if you’re full of hatred for them.

        They’re a dichotomy of amazing social progressivism and brutal conservatism.

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          Mexico had their first black president in 1829 and abolished slavery. The US was a century too late to lead such a thing. Your comment reeks of western chauvinism.

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            . . . You don’t think Mexico is western?

            And who said anything about the first black president or abolishing slavery? Mexico didn’t give women the right to vote until 50 years after we did here in Australia, does that mean you reek as well? What an odd stand to try and make.

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          This timeline? Where the US is nearly the last of any western nation to legalise gay marriage?

          And isn’t your country actively trying to work back any progress you’ve had in the last decade? Trans rights, queer rights, women’s rights, minority rights.

          Also isn’t it Americans who are pushing the most for anti-LGBT legislation in African countries?

          Canada is falling down the same hill when it comes to trans rights, and it hurts me, but I’m not out here saying that Canada is any sort of leader in the field. I recognise the issues my country has and I’m going to fight to fix them.

          Knock off the American exceptionalism for one second and deal with the problems your country has

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            Mahatey, it’s not my fucking country or American exceptionalism because I’m not American eh?

            This timeline:

            And you’re a fucking idiot if you don’t think Canada is not one of the best places in the world for rights. Go take a holiday to 90% of the world and let me know how they treat women or queers.

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              Didn’t realise you weren’t American, sorry for assuming. Admittedly I’m very jaded right now (and a bit drunk) with all the threats of invasion and with Americans either laughing it off or being all for it (and I recognise that’s not all Americans but it’s enough). Like, “haha, Canada will turn the USA blue!”

              And fine, yeah Canada is pretty up there for LGBT rights, but when one of the main platform points (imported from the USA!) from the Conservatives right now seems to be just straight up attacking trans people, it makes me pretty worried. I have multiple family members and a few friends who are trans or non binary and the rhetoric is scary.

              But TL;DR, not angry at you, just America(ns). I apologise to the good Americans, but your country is exporting a lot of bullshit right now. More than usual

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          I didn’t say there were no positives from America did I? I didn’t rank where America stands in how progressive or conservative America is.

          I said America is full of hatred towards Minorities with no comparison to another place.

          I am not wrong. There is too much of it.

          So “come off” what exactly?

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            Decep is right.

            Not from America. America is full of hatred towards minorities.

            You’re basically implying the bad outweighs the good to the point that it won’t give them any ideas.

            The bad may be very amplified now, but I think the TikTok crowd in particular and US history skews towards “majority good”

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              I didn’t imply that. Stating that there is too much hatred of minorities doesn’t mean that America fails at everything. That is a stretch. Me pointing out that America has a lot of hatred towards minorities isn’t a reflection of everything America does as a whole is inherently bad.

              I didn’t say that America can’t have a good influence on another country. America isn’t one to look to especially now for how minorities are treated.

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            I said America is full of hatred towards Minorities with no comparison to another place. I am not wrong.

            But you are wrong. The US doesn’t hate its minorities in general. The US hates the poor in specific.

            • Gay billionaire
            • Black billionaire
            • Hispanic billionaire
            • Muslim billionaire
            • Female billionaire

            The same goes if you replace “billionaire” with “poor”. If you are rich, you are welcome. That’s your only qualifier. If you are poor, you are trash. That is your only qualifier.

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              When I say America I mean the people of America. There are large numbers of folks, regardless of why they do, hate minorities.

              I didn’t say the wealthy “elite” weren’t the cause of a lot of the divide. They absolutely are. No such thing as an ethical billionaire.

              I’m not disagreeing with you on the fact that your financial status isn’t what really separates us. What I am saying is there is still too much hate towards minorities. That doesn’t change that the wealthy are a problem.

              You’re taking two separate ideas and merging them into one “truth.”

              They ate two separate topics. Just because the wealthy are guilty of the bad they are doing doesn’t take away the fact that there is too much hate towards minorities in America from the people that live here.

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              I don’t think that’s entirely true and Thiel will learn that lesson sooner or later. Arguably already has as he was rumored to have been pissed about all the anti-trans rhetoric and throttled spending, which is why Elon had to step up and shell out.

              Now Musk is in the driver seat with a grudge he hasn’t paid back from PayPal and Thiel’s in danger of finding out after fucking around.

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            You singled it out. Which was incorrect. Hatred of minorities is common in every culture on every continent of the Earth. It’s a basic human nature thing. And America isn’t special in that respect. Hell when you get into large monocultures like China Etc the racism and hatred of minorities gets even more extreme and specific. In fact a lot of those hatreds have been imported from all over. The Koreans hatred of the japanese. The Japanese is hatred of the Chinese and vice versa. Various Indian sects hatred of each other. And the colorful bigotry of Europe and the Mediterranean. But one thing it is also produced here in America that is a little less common than elsewhere. Are people that actually are much more tolerant and supportive of minorities. Unfortunately they’re not the ones in control but they do exist.

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              Singling out a problem that exists in a country I am very familiar with is a non problem. I didn’t state it was special to America. I didn’t speak on any other nation and their hatred of minorities. I didn’t even state anything about it being part of “human nature.”

              I spoke on being familiar with the fact that it is a problem in America.

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    To bad they didn’t hear about Loops. I don’t use this stuff so I have no idea if it’s good or not, but it’s not Chinese or collecting your data so it would be worth a try. Although if 400k users flooded it I have serious doubts they could scale to meet a demand like that.

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      The scalability is my concern too. It took me like 8 days after I signed up before I got my login to Loops.

      Gotta say I really like it, though

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        It was waitlist for a while, not sure if it still is but I got my welcome email like a week later.

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          I was able to make my account immediately, just this morning. Not on Google Play yet though, had to download the apk manually.

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            How long did you wait? I submitted for an account a few days ago. Not even a confirmation email saying anything.