Special counsel Jack Smith took a meeting with attorneys representing former President Donald Trump earlier this year and reportedly sat in stone-cold silence while they pleaded with him not to indict their client.

Politico reports that ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl’s new book on Trump’s post-presidential life claims that Trump lawyers Trump attorneys Todd Blanche and John Lauro met with Smith’s team over the summer and gave them a list of reasons why charging Trump with crimes related to his efforts to illegally remain in power would be a mistake.

According to Karl, Smith sat through through the presentation without saying a word.

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    I’m imagining him staring down the clownfucks while taking bites of his subway sandwich the way Jules looks at Brad as he empties his tasty beverage.

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        For nearly 30 years I’ve thought it was Brad because the “Check out the big brain on Br…” sounds very much like “Brad” and I clearly ignored every other instance of his name. MY LIFE IS A LIE

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          The silent pouting expression after the “I don’t remember asking you…” line was great. Samuel L. Jackson has such a distinct and biting voice. I really hope they’ve sampled and preserved it for posterity and future use (non-exploitatively of course). Even if they recast the role he’ll always be the voice of Principal Firebush to me.

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      Subway? Naw. Jack smith has standards

      I’m going to imagine a made-at-home Dagwood’s-esque beauty.

      That, or he has an induction burner and he pan seared a giant porterhouse. Maybe fry off some country potatoes and asparagus.

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        It was one of the first times (if not the first) Jack Smith was shown on camera since being named Special Prosecutor and not an older press photo. He was pointedly ignoring reporters’ questions while he walked to the courthouse from the subway across the street, sandwich bag in hand.

        He no doubt has great taste, but is also very practical. Potatos would get soggy if he prepared them in the morning, maybe induction cooktop wasn’t available, and as a distance runner (or cyclist, I forget) he needed a little cardio, so down the street to the subway! 👍

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        That, or he has an induction burner and he pan seared a giant porterhouse. Maybe fry off some country potatoes and asparagus.

        I can just see him holding eye contact as he slams a slab of meat onto a hot pan

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        I am going with organic no added sugars peanut butter on whole wheat. His wife is concerned about the results of his last checkup and according to Jack there is only one person on earth you should be afraid of, Mrs. Smith.

        So he sits there silently eating his nutritious lunch dreaming of a nice fried egg sandwich.

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    I’d love to see this list of “reasons” published. What do they think they are? Way above the law, or what?

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      Reason 1: He didn’t do anything!
      Reason 2: It wasn’t that bad!
      Reason 3: You’re making such a big deal about it!
      Reason 4: It wasn’t his fault!
      Reason 5: He didn’t mean it!
      Reason 6: You all deserved it!

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    People really need to realize, Trump is insane. He has never heard anyone tell him he was wrong, or not good enough, or not smart enough, or it was his fault. Now as a “grown man” he believes he can do no wrong. He was buddies with North Korea and Russia because he wants to know how they maintain their power and grip over this countries.

    I’m scared to death that not enough peole are taking seriously that he could win again. I hope at least 1 felony will be set as guilty for him, and disqualify him, but then you’ve got the rest of the herd of nut-jobs that follow him right behind him.

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        It actually would be really fucked up if it could as most minorities wouldn’t be able to hold elected office, and those felonies are often extremely arbitrary ones put in place by racist jurisdictions with the explicit purpose of denying minorities their right to vote.

        The fact that you can lose respect for any of your constitutional rights as a consequence of a court proceeding should terrify everyone.

        There are better ways to deal with fascists.

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        I mean technically he could become president while in jail, and maybe pardon himself if it’s for a federal offense.

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      Usually something like this would be a bit of a back and forth. But (supposedly) they said nothing, asked no questions, and then just said bye to them when they were done, that indicates a lot more than just being polite.

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        I had a manager who would sit in silence during every negotiation waiting for the tension to break the other person.

        I knew that trick before the interview. That was a very awkward several minutes while we just sat looking at each other. He broke the silence and I got the job on the interview.

        Yeah he was a weird guy.

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    I would, after all their begging and pleading, would hold out my hand and change it to a thumbs down, like the Romans did in the Colosseum.

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      First rule of indictment: Don’t bargain with defendant attorneys about indictment. Second rule of indictment: (See above)

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    I also read the story linked about the nut job that attacked Paul Pelosi as he was waiting to take out his wife Nancy. As much as I would love to think these cases are the exception, they aren’t based on the numbers alone.

    If I was deranged like this, I would be upset Mr Drink Bleach didn’t bail him and others from the Jan 6th event out of jail. Perhaps they are thinking if he returns, then he will do the right thing for their sacrifices?

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      They learn nothing. The qanon shaman did time, and was called an antifa false flag by his peers. He’s trying to run for office now, trying to get the votes of the same people who threw him under the bus the second his story was inconvenient

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    This is a really badass way to say he had a meeting where he didn’t say anything.

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    Do you guys think there is still a chance that Trump gets elected again?

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        Holy shit, now you really scared me 😳

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            the hard pill to swallow is we arent even as good as Idiocracy

            at least in Idiocracy the authorities listened to the “expert” and solved the systemic issues.

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      He’s been avoiding the debates. His rallies are basically a greatest hits from 2016, even though he was president already and could have fixed those things. he’s now using dictator language to dehumanize the opposition so his thugs will be more likely to use violence. All this and he’s leading the Republican race. He’ll run from prison because the Republicans are purely for power now and clearly won’t relinquish it next time.

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          They’ve been maneuvering, bribing, and putting cronies in places of power for 70 years. They learned from the Civil War that you can’t just fight openly. They used the Civil rights movement to bolster support. Obama was also used to bolster some more.

          They own the Supreme Court, the governorship, they’re cementing the house through gerrymandering, the senate favors Republicans along with the electoral college.

          The state can’t defend itself when you are the state. Sherman was right, we should have kept on burning.

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      If the results of the trials done disqualify him, then yes this is his beer hall putsch. We’re about to get a dictator if we don’t have a blue army voting in droves.

      We should all be very afraid.

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      Any chance at all? Maybe. But the obvious thing I don’t see many comments about is that he cannot gain supporters, only lose them.

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      Yea, sadly. In the eyes of his followers and many fence sitters the fact that he’s being indicted for things “everyone does” (not actually true but that is the perception) confirms his rhetoric.

      Stuff like Menendez, Hunter’s nepotism and Pelosi’s husband being an investment banker doesn’t help fight the perception that everyone on the hill is dirty as hell. In the minds of many an uninformed voter one might as well vote for the guy who is straight up about being a dick. At least he’s honest about something.

      The reality, of course, is that while corruption really is an issue with both sides of the aisle there are no Republicans who don’t have self-enrichment as their primary ideology.

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          Polls conducted by cold calling people on the phone. Think about the type of people who answer those calls and have 15 minutes to spare to answer questions.

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            When I did polls over the phone I dreaded the political polls the most because they were 30 minutes long and if they didn’t get finished then I got into trouble. Generally, 10-15 minutes is when I would be asked how much longer it would take. I didn’t want to tell the (full) truth so I would say that it would be a bit longer. Sometimes I would tell the full amount. A few people would be okay with it but some chewed me out.

            The Jiffy Lube ones were only 5 minutes.