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            while i appreciate your random internet stranger opinion, I fail to see how dragonfucker hurts or inconveniences any of us 🤷‍♀️

            like yeah i get you dont like it but isnt your comment just a teeny bit more cringe as fuck?

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              They’ve been inconveniencing me by following me around and harassing be because they didn’t understand my simple point that ‘they’ applies to all humans.

              They harassed me over calling Caillou ‘he.’ As in the cartoon toddler. Seriously.

              They also object to people using the word ‘you’ to address them, which is fucking stupid.

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              If someone is so socially inept and surrounded by equally socially inept people who don’t call out this behavior, then it’s possible they don’t have anyone who is part of society at large that would inform them of how their actions will be perceived by most members of the public.

              I’m not commenting because it hurts me in any way. I’m commenting because this person is going to have a relatively difficult life socially if they continue with the behavior they currently exhibit.

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              The gut-reaction to call someone cringe is a natural expression of the human desire to conform to social norms. They are insecure about their own differences so they enforce conformity in others by trying to humiliate them, the way they have been. In a strange way they could see it as helping them to avoid further humiliation. They’re saying “cut it out” with an implied “or else people will not accept you.” It’s pure instinct.

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              What do you call it then? Because that’s what’s happening here

              Unless “drag” refers to someone/thing else entirely, which context heavily implies otherwise

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                  It’s a person independent neopronoun

                  Cute, but no it’s not

                  Its a nickname, your username shortened. That’s a proper noun whether you pretend to use it otherwise elsewhere or not, as context is important in communication

                  I do like the trolling effort though so keep on keeping on

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          I think the assumption that people who engage in unconventional means of expression are attention-seeking speaks to a common insecurity people have about receiving negative attention themselves. They’re reflecting the social pressure to conform that they already surrendered to.

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            You can strap a watermelon to your neck and call it whatever you want, but don’t expect others to mistake that for a personality.

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      Why? This is their post and they wanna use middle English. It’s not that big a problem for anyone else.

      Are you just worried that it’ll become a more common trend? I don’t think that’ll happen. It’s just gonna be like scrolling by a ich iel post every now and again.

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      No. Language is dynamic by design. If þey/þem wish to be diacritical fluid, who are we to deny freedom of speech?

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        You’re right, it is. But language shifts in populations in ways that enhance communication. One person using letters that nobody else uses makes communication of ideas more difficult.

        Not only that, but they’re only choosing to use some Middle English letters, and not any other rules of Middle English grammar or spelling.

        They can use whatever language they want, but if it’s too much effort for people to understand, they’re more likely to be ignored.

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          You’re right, it is. But language shifts in populations in ways that enhance communication. One person using letters pronouns that nobody else uses makes communication of ideas more difficult.

          Not only that, but they’re only choosing to use some Middle English letters english pronouns, and not any other rules of Middle English grammar or spelling different types of english pronouns.

          They can use whatever language pronouns they want, but if it’s too much effort for people to understand, they’re more likely to be ignored.

          Doesn’t sound so reasonable now, does it? If language that mildly inconveniences others is an acceptable way to express your gender identity, then why not also to express yourself creatively?

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            One, pronous are not letters, and letters are not pronouns. I’m not offending anyone’s gender by suggesting that using “þ” instead of “th” when trying to communicate in English on the internet in 2024 is counterproductive.

            Two, gendered pronouns are some of the very oldest words in English, and they are used very regularly. They are engrained in native English speakers from birth. Each of us has a very long history of thinking in terms of these gendered pronouns, and I will grant that those who are younger have an easier time of making gender shifts with pronouns than those who are older.

            There’s a reason people aren’t using xe/xey, for example. Somebody just made it up and said “use it.” Language doesn’t work by fiat (unless we’re talking about a colonizer eliminating indigenous languages by literal force). In terms of gender neutral pronouns, we already have the singular “they,” which has been in use to some degree since at least Early Modern English.

            I can wholly respect and support someone’s gender and refuse to use nonsense words at the same time. Think about where gendered pronouns are used: when one person talks to a second person about a third person. If that third person is genderfluid in some way, I’m going to use “they” when referring to them (see what I did there?), because the second person is most likely to understand what I’m saying.

            And before you get all fucking uppity again, I’ve had many lengthy conversations about this and so many other gender issues with my son, who is, among so many other things, trans.

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              I don’t even necessarily disagree that it’s counterproductive, I just don’t think it’s fair to attack someone for using esoteric or unconventional language. Yes, it inconveniences the listener - or in this case the reader - but in this context no one is being forced to engage with OP. By using some Old English letters OP is just having some innocent fun at no one’s expense, which doesn’t warrant the harsh response they’re receiving.

              If you were talking to someone and they casually used xe/xey pronouns (or any neopronouns for that matter) to refer to a friend who isn’t there, would you go out of your way to lecture them about what an inconvenience it is to you to have to learn something new?

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          You aren’t owed prescriptive compliance just because you’re used to a worse system.

          Let alone if you feel like going out of ð way to justify shitting on oðer people’s innocent fun.

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    He can say what he wants. He can endorse Adolf Hitler and nobody will bat an eye. Meanwhile Kamala has to watch every letter that crosses her lips.

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            True, it was the same for Biden. I also don’t think this only applies to Trump and America. I live in Europe and saw it happen in my own city. The right-wing sitting mayor was framing his opponent for being a communist supporting the Taliban, which was an absolute lie. Buddy only advocated for affordable housing and public transport. Though there was something to be said about his lack of plans to achieve that, it’s probably better than just letting the free market do its thing. Anyways the media framed the sitting major as the sensible one, regardless of the lies he told, and he won the elections by a mile.

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                Calling dissenters fascists and Zionists violates rule 1. Please keep it civil.

                People can disagree with your view, or your delivery of your view. That doesn’t make them s Zionist or fascist. They just means you’re failing to communicate. In communication, the onus lies squarely on the sender.

                This is a friendly warning.

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          I keep forgetting that there was never a female president before. I’m German and 16 years of chancellor Merkel are pretty fresh in my mind still. I was 11 when she got into office, kinda crazy to think about.

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            Tbf, ð role to role equivalent of ð chancellorship in ð US would be speaker of ð house, and we had Nancy Pelosi for almost just as long before she retired as well.

            Only reason we don’t þink ðat way about her is because ð independent executive has inflicted upon us a grievous insistence on still existing.

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        Because Republicans have chosen Trump as the leader of their in-group, and everything they say and do is just sound bytes for getting him in power and abusing the out group, no matter how inconsistent, hypocritical, or false it is. They don’t actually think what they mock the left for is bad, but if they can use it to justify being against them, they’ll use it.

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          It’s actually worse than that IMO, they’ve imprinted on him as a surrogate for themselves. To attack, challenge or abandon him now would be to do that to themselves.

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            He definitely represents their animus. A projection of their perverse fantasy of disrupting the “corrupt government” sold to them by decades of hate radio.

            If you ever listened to Rush Limbaugh you already know how these people think. They have been spoon fed lies their entire life.

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          Fuck both those zionist bootlickers.

          That said, I’m voting Harris this time, since the alternative isn’t an option, but, we still have to destroy this 2 party, oligarch ruled system and start from scratch. Enough is enough. Time to eat the rich.

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            These are good opinions, but can you say them two weeks from now? Drag doesn’t think they’re productive right now. They’ll be great in two weeks.

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        It’s all propaganda. Biden gave the terrorist state of Isreal $18 Billion in American tax dollars this year alone. That’s $13 Billion more in a year than the average of $5billion per year for the last 75 years.

        I don’t know wtf Dildo Tramp’s angle is here, but both parties are Zionist boot lickers who’ve continuously funded genocide. I don’t know why he would try and make his opponents look less evil than he is, and also piss off his skinhead supporters.

        Edit: to be clear, you should still vote Harris because it’s the lesser evil option in this fucked up circus. But denying reality makes you just as bad as air-headed trumpets. Both sides are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich, and we need to abolish this 2 party system, not make-up fantasies that one side is actually good.

        Nobody is debating the fact that Trump is 1000x worse and also has and will continue funding Isreal if elected.

        That’s how you know the downvotes aren’t from the progressive side. We don’t downvote facts or minimize genocide.

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                  Waiting for you to find any inaccurate information in my original comment and elaborating why you think my fact based comment is propaganda, and not the corporate media story I’m commenting on.

                  Immediately trying to change the subject and cherry pick other parts to argue about.

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            I presented facts, that’s all.

            I challenge you to find any inaccurate information in my comments.

            I said multiple times I’m voting Harris, but that’s not good enough for fascists and zionists, you need to re-write history to fit your narrative.

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        Feeling even an ounce more assured in getting away wið saying ð N-Word wiðout facing social consequences is a potent enough high for ðese slimeballs ðat ðey will literally hand him ðeir newborn child to rape on national television so long as he keeps ð supply coming.

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      Has he not literally been doing that? I’ve been seeing articles about how much he looks up to Hitler. And he quotes him. He’s not being subtle, at least.

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        In his first campaign it was said that the only book he kept and actually read was the English translation of Hitlers speeches. He has never really shied away from his adoration of the mustache man.

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        Videos talking about building a unified Reich, talk of immigrants polluting the blood of the nation, a lot of talk from his orbit about cultural Marxism, all the shared enemies (other than Israel, who are now the genocidal fascist ethnostate he aspires to), Nazis consistently turning out to support him… It’s straightforwardly Nazi bullshit. At least Hitler did prison time for the beer hall putsch - Jan 6? Fine, apparently.

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    Downvoted for the title. Not sure what kind of mouth breather trend that is, but it’s not lasting

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      I remember a person on Reddit using this.

      þ- th sounding /θ/ (think)
      ð- th sounding /ð/ (the)

      As to why… I hope OP tells us.

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        They’re still missing the “e” from “ðe”. That’s what bothers me.

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          I think It was common in middle English to omit the ‘e’, leaving it to context for the reader to infer the meaning. I see this in alot of shorthand and other alphabets like Shavian.

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            leaving it to context for the reader to infer the meaning

            So the same way we differentiate between the two sounds “th” can make?

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              Kinda, yeah. The difference is that it’s not a per-word basis where you have to memorize dozens of cases. Much less cumbersome on learners. There’s nothing wrong with just writing ‘ðe’ either, if the writer prefers.

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                None of us will be “known” for anything on this website. It will all fade. Let them try to be quirky to rage against oblivion, it hardly impacts your life.

                In fact, I’m thankful for the stupid trend because I had no idea how to read some of those names in Fire Emblem: Heroes.

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                  It’s more that it makes your posts hard to read for no reason other than a painfully transparent and desperate cry to be “unique” and “quirky.” That said, you do you, man.

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                  Lovely, that you paint me as “offended by these letters.”

                  You don’t know me.

                  Go back to your fucking ð.

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          I support.

          Æsþetically it looks dense & unique like ð rare, sunderly dental fricative sounds English makes. “ð” isn’t historic since Old English really didn’t boðer ƿiþ separating voiced vs. unvoiced dental, but ðat’s okay since our broðers up norþ in Iceland use ðese 2 characters in ð manner you prescribe. I like ð mirroring a as ð single-character definite vs. indefinite article too. As someone around ESL (English as a second language) speakers, it can help ðem not only knoƿ hƿich sound to make hƿile preventing silly slip-ups like former US president Donald Trump saying Þighland instead of Thailand—but it ƿould be obvious if our ƿritten form ƿasn’t forced to drop þorn for overloading “y” or “th” for ð printing press’ limitations not built for our tongue.

          Before computers or printing presses, ƿe didn’t have spellcheck—so folks spelled ƿords as ðey sound. Having less digraphs favoring more single characters is considered more ergonomic; Dvorak, ð keyboard layout, has “ht” on the home roƿ of ð dominant hand to shoƿ just hoƿ dominant ðis digraph truly is for typing English.

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            Look, english spelling is already a mess for me to parse (non-native speaker). If y’all start using this other alphabet, I’m just not gonna bother reading.

            “Oh no! Anyway” kind of comment, but I must protest somehow.

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              Yeah, I think this is a pretty shitty way to behave on a website with a large number of non-native English speakers.

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                I think the real shitty part is the English itself, not letter changes.

                We could do the nice thing and make an easier language the standard? Spanish maybe? Could also do German. /s

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                Do you think it’s shitty for black people in America to use African American English dialect on public forums where non-native speakers could see it? Same deal, just different levels of familiarity. Nothing is forcing anyone to engage with this post, but a lot of people seem to feel a strong enough desire to enforce social conformity that they go out of their way to complain about someone doing something different.

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                  No. Not same deal. One is dialect with slang, which is readable, and which you can just easily look up if you don’t know.

                  The other is using letters that even most native English speakers can’t parse.

                  Also, comparing this person’s nonsense to an ethnic group’s way of speaking is highly offensive. I hope you realize that.

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              Ban ñ from Spanish! My language does not have this character!

              Non-native speakers tend to mess up dental fricatives in speech as is. This usage is a good reminder as a character for a sound your language doesn’t have… a lot of languages “th” is pronounced as English “t” which implies aspiration like in Thomas. It is just like learning any other non-Romantic language & is literally in Icelandic—not some made-up character.

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            This was a little easier than reading finnegans Wake but not much. Definitely more humorous though. Thank you.

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            Why do you persist in writing “ð” rather than “ðe” for “the”? And… Do you really say æsþetic and not æstetic? Where are you from to do that?

            FWIW, do not support, even as a brother up north. English spelling is broken but there are more glaring problems to fix first.

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              Why should the indefinite article, “a”, a single character but the definite article, “the”, takes 3 chars? You know those that created our more modern English decided to respell could with -ould just for symmetry with would & should (Old English was cūþe, with our boy thorn for a dental fricative ending)—so it isn’t like words never changed to look nicer. Middle English often wrote the “the” as þͤ. /ðə/ is the normal transcription. “ð” without specially markers seems fine: single char for a very common word while indicating that it is a voiced sound (meaning not the unvoiced þ).

              Aesthetic comes from Greek αἰσθητικός. θ is an unvoiced dental fricative (also the symbol in IPA) just like our boy þ (descended from the Futhark ᚦ). All transcriptions of English dialects I found show it with the “th” in pronunciation… so if you aren’t using a unvoiced dental fricative, you would be the weird one. 🙃

              I would agree that fixing the vowels should be a higher priority. But English does not fit a five-vowel system like most Latin languages whose letters were shoehorned onto English. The only way to fix it (ignoring the dialectal splits) would be to either invent an entirely new writing system or going back to the system prior to Latin script adoption since the old system more properly encoded English sounds with few diagraphs & many more vowels to work with. In the latter case you would go for the Anglo-Saxon runes brought to the British Isles by the Angles, Saxons, & Jutes. With modernization, I would support this too tho 😅

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                Right, so you’re just arbitrarily changing words. That’s very nice.

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                  In recent years tho & thru have been increasingly more common than though & through. Common words tend to do this—the is a top-10 usage word in English. Makes sense.

                  Look on how you go from Latin ET/et to &. Turns a common word into a single symbol. Or similar a (and an) coming from Old English ān with cognates in Old Frisian, German, Norse, Saxon, and Gothic with forms like “ein” further being reduced.

                  If there is a historical precendence for this happening, there is no reason to assume the language’s writing would not, could not, or should not evolve similarly.

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              They are weirder ones for sure since they look like Ps without extra training. But just slapping two Vs or Us together like the Romans is a hack compared to the historic ƿ (from Runic ᚹ).

              But even stranger is why on Earth were “hw” flipped by printing press folks after hundreds of years with the h first due to pronunciation… I wouldn’t be surprised if the voiceless labial–velar fricative went out of fashion based the new spelling to where many (maybe most) speakers don’t differentiate between “w” & “wh”.

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          You don’t get it, I find it annoying so you should cater to me. STOP HAVING FUN BECAUSE I FEEL EXCLUDED!!!1!1!1

          /s

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      Is a fucked up sense of outrage supposed to make you look internet cool? Hey check me out, I’m acting more concerned about something stupid the OP did than I am about the alarming content they just shared, isn’t my personality so edgy?

      And announcing your downvote, you’re like the reincarnation of Oscar Wilde over there.

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      It’s not a trend. The way you and drag are speaking is the trend. Phlubbadubba is speaking Old English. You’re right, though, it didn’t last.

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        The conversation I had with drag before about drag’s reasons for speaking this way shifted my perspective enough that Phlubbadubba’s use of Old English doesn’t bother me the way it probably would have before. I understood drag, but seeing how negatively people are responding to a tiny bit of Old English makes me appreciate drag. Keep it up.

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    Quote me if I’m wrong but isn’t this fucking illegal to have a private citizen act on behalf of the United States government?

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    Don’t worry, I’m sure in a few years he’ll be indicted, and then a few years after that there will be a trial, and then a few years after that he might be forced to grift his followers to pay a fine.

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      Shit, he probably won’t last long before senility or old age gets him. Then we have old president JD to look forward to

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      Technically I don’t even þink ðis would get a trial, since Israel, unlike Iran and ð Vietkong, are not enemies of ð US at ð time of ð act in question.

      Meaning what would normally qualify for an open and shut case for treason doesn’t apply since ð aiding and abetting isn’t happening to a technically hostile power.

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        W̵̤̤̏h̵̡̧̢̰̯̺̣̻̟̙͙̟̅ẏ̸̢̻͙̺̖̤̳̠̙̼̩̳̯̓̏͒̅͑̐̓̿̾̆̐͠͝͠͝ ̷̨̞̮͚̝͎̠̬͇͙͒̃̈́̆̉̋͊̍̉̀̋̈̓͜ạ̷̡̱̘̻͈̥̰͚͍̗̗̱̞̣͗̑̀̚͝ͅŗ̸̜̮̗͍̣͙̮̜̤͍̟͙̼͚͝ḝ̷̩͕̰̖̣͖̤͎̝̗͔̯̺̗̱͂̎̿̓̐̊̈́̑̌̿͘͝ ̵̮̱̗͎̼̞̰͚̬̣̬̀̍̐̓̂̽̃͑̒́͊̾͘̕͘ỳ̸̟̤̟̞͔͔̙͕̪͔̰̰͔̪̭̭̏̀͂̊́̚͜o̷̰̮̹̰̯̳͉̰͆̃͂̇͘͠ự̵͗̉̈͛̐̃́̂̔̑͛͘͝ ̴̡̨͖͚̟̜̳̣̫̰̜̖̪̽̌̚͜ͅͅt̸̢̢̟̖̞̱̥͛͊̈̈̀͆̈́͐̈́̑̽͘͘͝a̸͇͔̬̽̓̋̍͒͐͛̿̂̎͛̚͘͝l̷̡̛̰̜̳͕̞̗̥̯̤̭̮͎͎̱͌̄͛̆̓͑̊͊̅̓̚̕ḱ̷̹͙̯͚̰̙͖͖͋͆̉̈̚i̴̧͙͑̒͋̀̈́̽̊̆̊̎̋̃ņ̸̣͓̟͈̯̹̞̥͓̠͈͖̲͈͖̈̔̋͊̿̂̀͗̕͜͝ḡ̶̡̛̩̞͖̟̯̞̯̼̺̘̭̊̉̂̆̎̈́̐͌̏͛̃̊̕ ̴̬͎͖̟̣̻̈́̉́̈́̋͂̍͂̒̇̈̾̕̚͝l̵͚̲̖̰̇͑͝i̵̧̠̜͕̩̖̙̝͙̠͉̙̮̼̒͐̅̏̑͒̄͂̈́͌̀̑̽̚k̶͙͙̟͔̠̳͍̭͉̥͓̼̝̟̣̗̲̆̐͆̄͌̓͛̍͒̊͊̊̕͝ȇ̵̮̙͜ ̵̢̦̜̯̑͆́̌̾t̶̘͕̲̼̲̰̙̱͕̩̜̦͐̿͋͒̒̑̂̔͋̕̚ͅḧ̸͕̪́̅̐a̶̡̲̟͇̺̯̜͎̹̰̿̏̓̓̆͑͝ţ̴̜̭͌̈́̓̏́͛͝?̵̡̨̜̦̖͓͔̘̿

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          Because (based on their post history) a few weeks back they had a crisis of identity and needed to do something - anything - to feel seen.

          Sadly, they chose an annoying as fuck thing to harp on about in pursuit of being a special butterfly. Normally I’d just block and move on, but I want to observe this particular slow-motion tragedy as it unfolds.

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    On one hand, I agree with you

    On the other hand, Jesus Christ didn’t the Middle English fad die out in like, 2013 Reddit?

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      And you should be glad it did. Germans didnt get so lucky.

      r/ich_iel and [email protected] STILL think it’s funny not to use english words and instead translate them literally so it sounds like complete nonsense. (“Zangendeutsch”) This joke got old like 10 years ago but if you use even a single english word you will still be greeted with “Sprich Deutsch du Hurensohn” which means speak German you son of a bitch.

      I just want good memes in my own language, but that community is insufferable.

      /rant, sorry

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    This would normally totally annihilate a presidential run. Fucks sake, they were ended by a guy saying “please clap” or having a weird laugh.

    But then again, only cultists vote for this man.

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      It’s not just the Maga hats. There is a substantial amount of the population that thinks claims like this are just muckracking by “the other side”, and that he is really the better candidate in terms of economy, border security, and traditional values.

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      This would normally totally annihilate a presidential run.

      What annihilates a Presidential Run is heavily predicated on the propaganda machine surrounding the candidate.

      In this case, you’ve got an American media that is fully in bed with the MIC and a big client state of the MIC generating enormous returns through procurement.

      Why would a conglomerate that profits off sale of arms to Israel want a ceasefire? Why would media owned by these conglomerates bad mouth a candidate that promises to increase military aid and Pentagon spending?

      For the same reason you see glowing coverage of Saudi Arabia, Dubai, the Philippines, and India, you’re going to keep seeing us love bomb our favorite genocidal dictatorship in the Middle East.

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      Nixon did the same during the Vietnam war. He just wasn’t public about it. Same with Reagan during the hostage crisis.

      There are no rules if there is an “R” next to your name.

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    The guy is literally too stupid to stop hitting himself in the nuts. And then he blames the “deep state” for making him hit himself in the nuts.

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      While you may think he’s hitting himself in the nuts, polling says otherwise. I know, it’s infuriating.

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      Don’t you guys remember four/six years ago? This was a…depressingly effective tactic to evading responsibility. Because he just…openly admits to shit that other politicians know is poison. But nothing sticks because there are a million other things he does the same thing with. And it’s news for a day or two and then…nothing happens.

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      The guy is getting the entire Israeli misinformation and counter intelligence machine working for him non-stop. That’s a pretty big deal.

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      It doesn’t fucking matter how hard he hits himself in the nuts: he’s still going to get 48% of the vote. If you care about shit like this, you’re already not voting for him.

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    It worked for “Tricky Dick”. He just didn’t feel the need to go blabbing it to everybody because back then you couldn’t get elected without at least pretending to have morals.

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    Just as the classified documents case, this would be grounds to put Trump in military jail, instead of pussyfooting around a corrupt justice system he appointed a large chunk of. DNC being a neocon fundraising organization is pro Trump if he is more pro Israel.

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    If you’re going to use eth I just wish you’d use a vowel for ‘the’. No other consonants imply vowels in english.

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      Borrowed from Shavian, where ð equivalent letter, as well as four oðer consonants, actually do imply ð full word.

      Used for words wið specific grammar purposes, n for and, f for for, v for of, and t for to.

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        Interesting. Shaw specified that shavian alphabet should be a complete replacement to avoid the jarring appearance of misspelling though right? Porting those conventions into standard english orthography seems to violate that.

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          Meh, why waste a perfectly usable convention when you’re not gonna use ð alphabet it was originally used in?

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            It’s because language changes gradually over time. Most people who aren’t English Majors or have a Linguistics degree don’t even know what a Thorn is, and I don’t even blame them. (Also the fact that no Middle English characters are on my keyboard, closest I have to a dead symbol is ‽)

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                Same, personally I find it quite hilarious ðat people bitch at me about how “th” is mandatory because linguistic development and ðen in ð same breaþ condemn ‽ as quirky bait.

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                  I þink it’s important we have some fun wiþ language. Using historic letters is fun! So is þe interrobang! Who cares about þe people bitching‽ Language development doesn’t need to be homogenous

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        What makes you choose þ or ð? In Icelandic it’s the difference between voiced and voiceless.

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          What ever makes them feel better than everyone else at the current moment. Nothing else matters.

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          That seems to be what they’re doing here too. It reads almost normal to me except for not writing out “ðe” fully which is pointlessly jarring.

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      Yep there’s nothing that poor weak Biden or the ineffective dems could’ve done about it

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      Quoth the tankies, but Dems same tho

      They’re using old English characters that used to mean “th”