• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    From the same people who scream and bitch and moan about their right of free speech. It’s only their right apparently.

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      Can you name one person who’s discussed free speech who was also involved in this firing?

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        I can’t name anyone who fired her and you know it. You also know that Elon Musk literally claims to be a “free speech absolutist” and then censors people who disagree with him and his fans are all in support of that.

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          There’s also not a word from muskrat denouncing her being censored and fired, which is hipocritical, to say the least, from a “free speech absolutist”

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          I can’t name anyone who fired her and you know it.

          Correct. It was mostly a rhetorical challenge.

          Given you can’t name these people, you were obviously speaking outside your sphere of knowledge when you said:

          From the same people who scream and bitch and moan about their right of free speech.

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            You are really trying hard to protect Musk and his Nazi followers, but I’m afraid you’re not doing a good job of it.

            EDIT: I love that the modlogs are public.

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              Yikes!! Now we’re entering the phase where the Nazi salute is being dissected since they need a fucking microscope to suss out the differences.

              “Oh, he didn’t repeat the German phrase?! ROMAN SALUTE, LIBTARD!!1” 🥴

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              Actually I’m attacking your predilection to simply make stuff up and have it be accepted so long as it fits the narrative.

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                The person making things up is the person saying Elon was not giving a Nazi salute in the most convoluted way possible.

                That would be you.

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    A lot of people here thinking the USA is speed running fascism here.

    No, the USA was always an inspiration to fascism (just ask the remaining Native Americans as an example).

    That’s why it was able to adopt into it so quick. Not that hard to change a car to gasoline if it was already running on diesel.

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      Not that hard to change a car to gasoline if it was already running on diesel.

      Is almost a good analogy, but that’s not so easy 😅

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      Before WW2 broke out, the New York Times LOVED Mussolini. They kept pumping out articles about how much of a cool guy he was.

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      What if we called the original people Americans, and the newcomers immigrant Americans?

      Clarity: Native American -> American

      American -> Immigrant American

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        And due to the transitive property of humans, if we follow this through to its logical conclusion then native Americans are immigrant Americans too

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          Which is why “indigenous” is the best word in my opinion. Not just for the indigenous Americans, but for indigenous people the world over. It’s generally understood to mean “pre-colonial.”

          Edit: The only exception I can think of is that the Vikings settled Greenland before the Thule (who became the Greenland Inuit), but Danes are not considered indigenous and Inuit are. Maybe because the Vikings that settled there all left or died out and also maybe because the Vikings and the Thule settled different parts of Greenland and had very little contact with each other even when they could clearly see each other across a fjord. The very Christian Vikings of that era were probably quite reluctant to interact with people they saw as heathens.

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          Not really. Those are human made concepts, so you must start from the inception of the concept of immigration. Good luck finding the exact date, since it predates written language :/

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            Well since dates are human concepts as well we can just state it is immigration date 00/00/0000. Are the months or days first? That’s up to you, haha. You make a good point, but you understand what I mean. If we consider immigration only being the integration into another state permanently then we would have to say we had mostly open immigration into the U.S. until the later parts of the 1800s. The first 99 years there were no real immigration laws here. (So roughly 40% of our history had no immigration restrictions for the most part)

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    13 hours ago

    Everything they accuse china and the opposition of doing it something they do or want to do themselves.

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    They really are speedrunning fascism this time around. They did have plenty of time to prepare out in the open and gained public support with no long term repercussions.

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      Had to do some memeological research; that’s Yeon-mi Park, a North Korean defector on the Joe Rogan Podcast saying “in North Korea …”

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        she makes up shit about how bad life in is NK, like “we have to get out and push the train when it stops”

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    It’s a problem that the purge of those offended by nazis/oligarchs hinting too close to naziism is this early.

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      The Nazi speedrun all around the world scares me. It’s like they are competing with climate change, for who gets to kill us first.