• Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Remember when I was like “It’s weird that a lot of movies have villains that had trauma that ‘turned them evil’ as a trope”

    HMMMMMMM

    Also liberals read another book I beg you. Reality is not a children’s novel.

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      Remember when I was like “It’s weird that a lot of movies have villains that had trauma that ‘turned them evil’ as a trope”

      The thing is, this isn’t even true for Voldemort. By the text of the story, he was just Intrinsically Evil™ and even as a child he was always the one hurting bullying other people and not the one being bullied. So this is one of the worst possible choices of villains they could have used.

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    Laughable thing to say when the whole crux of israel is basically “historical Jewish suffering mean israel gets to go ape-shit and that you’re an antisemite if you think that’s wrong.”

    Also if you try to justify actual atrocities through the lens of children’s media, you should be wailed on with a fly-swatter until you have welts, I’m so fucking tired of that shit.

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    They did it! They said the thing! Truly this is some kind of supreme lib, an “alpha lib” if you will.

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    Circumstances did not create Lord Voldemort! JK Rowling created Lord Voldemort! How the fuck do these people avoid dying of embarrassment mentioning fucking children’s books in serious political discussions???

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    Terry Pratchett is a wonderful author for the younger children/cousins/comrades/anyone with a heart to read. Don’t let ya kids read pro-slave, transphobic authors!

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    Obvious Harry Potter brainworms aside, the metaphor doesn’t even make sense. Voldemort doesn’t go after Potter because he blames him for anything, he goes after him because of a prophecy.

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    We should start a crowdfund to send libs en masse to Palestine so they can talk to Palestinians about how they’re acting like Slytherins when they really should be more like Griffindors. They probably just never thought about it that way. And then Palestine can be partitioned through the 4-state solution, with each state named after a Hogwarts house and only people of respective characteristics may live in a particular state. Israelis will be in Griffindor automatically and Palestinians will be either in Slytherin if they don’t condemn Hamas or maybe they can make it to Ravenclaw if they do condemn Hamas, but if they condemn Hamas and are top physical specimens then they can maybe go to Griffindor. Then all the houses, except Slytherin, led by Hunter Biden as Harry Potter will team up for one final battle against Lord Voldemort Putin in Russia and win. Ukraine is the other school with the blondes. This might be the way to peacefully settle the conflicts in the Middle-east and the world.

    Jesus, this is how libs think.

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      In our terms Voldemort is more like an ethno-nationalist taking advantage of a paralyzed, dying neoliberal structure and how it’s already inherently racist. The wizards themselves live in a highly alienated liberal gerontocracy where nothing happens.

      The closest thing to leftism is one book where Hermione tries to quite literally organize against actual slavery of elves and the other wizards treat her like a loudmouthed annoyance. Then they tell her elves actually enjoy being enslaved.

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        House elves enjoy being enslaved, which is why Hermione is annoying and wrong and should shut up.

        Harry you’ve only met two house elves and they were both highly resentful of being enslaved-

        Yeah whatever nerd watch me catch the golden snitch with my trustfund broomstick lol does crosschops in midair

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          Don’t forget the third named house elf in the books, who immediately turns into an alcoholic after she gets freed. The movies smartly cut that whole thing out.

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        I think the Shaun video summed it up best when he said something like “the series frequently threatens to become interesting.”

        It’s just always implying that it could have interesting ideas and complex themes and then it just doesn’t.

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      Me as a kid: “These adults who want to ban Harry Potter are so weird. It’s just some books about silly wizards, it’s not Satanic”

      Me now “We need a turbo NKVD specifically for Harry Potter.”

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        Yeah, I’ll be honest, I’m a sucker for fantasy stuff, so I grew up loving it. However, at this point its doing more damage when you have Disney adults regurgitating it as foreign policy.

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    The guy who looks like Emperor Palpatine with no nose? I kinda just assumed he was evil for the sake of evil. Look at the dude, black cloaks, all pale and stuff. He’s trying to seem evil.

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      The nose was a congenital deformity he was born with or something. Like not even “he did the evil magic so his nose fell off” just “people with deformities are inherently evil”.

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          I don’t remember that at all. He was born as a normal dude, and was a normal looking dude up until he died. It isn’t until after he was reborn from some kind of evil ritual that he gets the no-nose form which I’m not even 100% certain is described in the books, it might just be a movie thing.

          But no, Tom Riddle, the guy who went on to become Mr. Evil No-nose, had a normal nose as far as I know(s).

          • I’m embarrassed to know this, but it’s only his first reborn form from the first book that has no nose. He exists as a face stretched across the back of professed quirrels bald head hence the flat nose. There’s no mention of his later forms having this feature in the books, it’s just a movie thing

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          Uh but anyway you’re basically right he was evil pretty much just for the sake of it. Dumbledore had suspicions he didn’t act on when they first met, and by the time Voldemort had graduated he had already killed someone (and framed Hagrid’s pet for it) in order to split of a piece of his soul for psuedo immortality.

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    Starship troopers but it’s burning a full set of the HP books before you’re allowed to become a citizen

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    We say “read another book”, but I’m not sure this person has actually read Harry Potter. “Circumstances” didn’t create Lord Voldemort. He was basically a kid who skinned cats alive for fun. He murdered someone to make his first Horcrux before he graduated. He didn’t even really believe the pureblood supremacist ideology his followers did, he just cynically used it to gather power to himself.

    Dumbledore explicitly points all this out to Harry in their last conversation at the precipice to the afterlife (just like how every other mystery in the series is resolved with an authority figure straight up telling the reader what happened). Harry and Voldy were similarly deprived as kids due to a tragedy, then got the same opportunities and education at Hogwarts, and ended up being two completely different people despite their similarities.

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        In my headcanon Harry is quickly disillusioned by his time in the Wizarding government, and comes to realize the role he played in reproducing the status quo rather that fighting for a new radically equal reality. He graduates right before the global economic crisis and gets radicalized, quitting his job and living in the wilderness making Marxist pamphlets and distributing them via a flock of owls that he has cast magical protection spells on and trained not to let themselves be followed back to the hideout. Essentially the whole thing with Voldemort is like the 1905 Revolution, and then somewhere down the line Harry Potter is the Lenin of the wizarding world’s equivalent to the 1917 revolution.

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          My headcanon is that Dobby’s writing spreads like fire amongst the house elves and other oppressed magical peoples, and Harry has his throat slit while asleep with the rest of the magocracy during the opening hours of the War of Magical Liberation.

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    Genocide by people with agency is circumstances, but resistance by (cough AYrabs cough) is evil.

    I’ve often said that the chance for dialogue doesn’t exist; this just reinforces it. You can’t talk to people like this, they’ve got brains made of mashed potatoes.